Yes season 1 was good... 2...nope On Dec 23, 2016 6:05 AM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
> You havent seen True detectives? Wow season 1 is the best > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com > > > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 6:02 PM > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again > > > > *Gino Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > Yeah, I am afraid I may have found a new series to watch too... > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:59 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again > > why the hell would you do this, right before christmas weekend. Matthew > McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, two seasons worth. When my kids are crying > christmas morning cause dads still binge watching and wont open presents, > im telling them to talk to jason from afmug > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >> https://youtu.be/_RfUj09pWfM >> >> On Thursday, December 22, 2016, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: >> >>> I was raised Catholic, now im Agnostic almost Atheist. I believe the >>> bible is a book put together through time to accomplish 2 main things (same >>> as religion) : Give purpose / meaning to your life, put together social >>> norms. They way that they are convey, that’s another topic of discussion. >>> >>> Too many things in the bible that nowadays makes no sense at all to take >>> it literally… >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown < >>> ch...@wbmfg.com> >>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Date: Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM >>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> Not no problem with what he is saying, I largely have the same opinion. >>> I look at Science and Religion as two views of the exact same thing. I >>> only believe in one thing... truth. >>> >>> *From:* Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:11 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again >>> >>> >>> What Neil has to say >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRt0FKeorlM >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 12/22/2016 7:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>> Western Law does in fact have deep roots in the bible. >>> >>> Western Common Law is the basis of our constitution modified with the >>> benefit of historical observations of failed nation states. >>> But those that reject the biblical ancestry of our legal system need to >>> actually read the bible, the whole thing. Perhaps several times. >>> >>> >>> 1) I am the LORD thy God… Thou shalt have no other gods before me. >>> OK, we have substituted our allegiance to our nation in the place of >>> god. Ye shall not pledge allegiance to any other nation. Same idea. You >>> can lose your citizenship. >>> >>> 2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image >>> This is pretty much limited to counterfeiting these days. (ok that is a >>> bit of stretch...) >>> >>> 3) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain >>> Huge expansion of this one, you even have to utter trigger warnings if >>> you take the name of Che Guevara in vain on some college campuses. Holy >>> cow has the list of things we cannot say grown lest we offend the >>> snowflakes. >>> >>> 4) Remember the Sabbath day >>> Just Google “Blue Laws”, lots of stuff is based on this. Including the >>> spelling of an ice cream sundae. >>> >>> 5) Honor thy father and thy mother >>> Talk to an emancipated minor for a new view on how the law forces you to >>> literally obey your parents until 18. They can even force you to get a >>> job and take your money... >>> >>> 6) Thou shalt not kill. >>> Duh? >>> >>> 7) Thou shalt not commit adultery. >>> Not only is it against the law, it is very good advice. And if you do >>> it, your spouse can sue your girlfriend for alienation of affection. >>> >>> 8) Thou shalt not steal. >>> ibid Duh? >>> >>> 9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. >>> Slander, Libel, just ask the tabloids if this has ever been an issue. >>> >>> 10) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy >>> neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor >>> his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's. >>> >>> Scheming is illegal and scheming normally starts in coveting. >>> >>> So far I am arguably batting 1000, but wait there’s more! >>> >>> Things as arcane as the time periods between bankruptcy “At the end of >>> every seven years you shall grant a remission of debts. “ >>> >>> Look at Exodus 21 and 22, most of our tort laws can be traced to this. >>> Property laws are in there. >>> >>> Some folks really hate to admit that the bible had anything to do with >>> our constitution or the founding of our nation. But some folks think that >>> Sandy Hook was a fabrication too.... >>> >>> >>> From: Jeremy >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:54 PM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again >>> >>> " >>> >>> Argument One: Our Legal System is Based on the Ten Commandments >>> >>> The legal system of the United States of America is based on the U.S. >>> Constitution, which includes its own Ten Commandments, if you will. It >>> starts off with ten rules which ensure the freedoms we have come to know >>> and love in this modern democracy. The very first one—in fact the very >>> first line of the Bill of Rights—says that government shouldn’t be in the >>> business of favoring one set of religious beliefs over another. Religious >>> liberty is something Americans have historically taken very seriously, and >>> we have always tried to remember that the only way one person can be free >>> to worship as she pleases is if everyone else is free to worship as they >>> please (or by extension free not to worship at all). >>> >>> In short, it stipulates that one God cannot be placed above all the >>> others. That’s bedrock for religious liberty in this country. No >>> favoritism. >>> >>> Now let’s look at the Ten Commandments of the Bible. That set of rules >>> begins with the exact opposite assertion: That there is only one true >>> God—ostensibly that would be the God of the Hebrews, Yahweh—and all others >>> are illegitimate. “You shall have no other gods before me,” it says as >>> clear as day. >>> >>> So right out of the gate, we’ve got a fundamental conflict between these >>> two sets of rules. One is fundamentally pluralistic and “secular” in the >>> sense that it resolves to be nonsectarian, free from entanglement with any >>> one denominational belief set. The other is just the opposite–it prohibits >>> any other commitments and places this One True Faith above all over belief >>> systems. These two ideologies are diametrically opposed to each other. I >>> don’t see how anyone who’s thinking very hard about this can escape the >>> conclusion that you have to choose which of these two ideologies should >>> govern our local, state, and federal governments. >>> >>> What you do in your own houses of worship is another story. According >>> to the way our government is set up, in the private sphere an individual, a >>> family, or a religious community is free to worship (or not worship) as >>> they see fit. But in a nation founded on the principle of nonsectarian >>> pluralism, you simply cannot say that our legal system is based on the >>> dictates of one religion or another, least of all one that starts out the >>> way the Ten Commandments does. >>> >>> Incidentally I could go on and cover other things that don’t sit right >>> as well. For example, the notion of observing a Sabbath (that’s on >>> Saturdays, btw) isn’t exactly carried over into the New Testament, and >>> simply saying that you worship on Sundays isn’t the same thing, strictly >>> speaking. We don’t have laws about making graven images either (which is a >>> good thing considering this monument is literally a graven image), nor can >>> we possibly legislate coveting. >>> >>> Come to think of it, can you imagine how the arch-capitalists among the >>> GOP would howl if we began to write laws about coveting? Good heavens. >>> Are you really sure you want to say the Ten Commandments should be the >>> basis for American legal system? But I digress… >>> >>> Those things which you can extract from the Ten Commandments which made >>> their way into our legal code like lying, stealing, and murder predated the >>> Hebrew religion by many centuries and are nearly universal among belief >>> systems the world over. So it’s not really accurate to talk as if the Ten >>> Commandments are the sole proprietary basis for those things, either." >>> -Neil Potter >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Josh Reynolds >>> mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote: >>> >>> Excellent points. >>> >>> On Dec 21, 2016 8:46 PM, "Jeremy" mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Because it gives the appearance that government is favoring a specific >>> religion, in violation of the 14th amendment. It shows a lack of >>> separation of church and state. If we are going to allow christian >>> displays on public property then we also have to allow the Church of Satan >>> to erect Baphomet as well. The issue is that Satanic churches, Muslims, >>> and Secular belief systems are not given the same rights as Christians. >>> Just look at the Atheists and agnostics who have attempted to give the >>> opening invocations at our legislature meetings all over the country, and >>> the reactions that they got. They have been berated and disrespected. >>> This is the ground zero for the establishment of a government-favored >>> religion. >>> >>> "The claim that America was founded as a “Christian nation” is at best a >>> gross over-simplification and at worst a myth fabricated in order to >>> manipulate contemporary sensibilities. Many of the prominent “Founding >>> Fathers,” were in fact not Christians in the sense that contemporary >>> evangelical, mainline Protestant, and Roman Catholic churches understand >>> the term. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Benjamin >>> Franklin, and a host of others were Deists, or at least influenced by deist >>> philosophy. They conceived of God as a divine watchmaker – this >>> impersonal, inaccessible deity set the universe in motion then sat back and >>> watched history unfold completely independent of any transcendent >>> intervention, miracles, or divine-human relationships (Jefferson famously >>> edited the New Testament to remove all references to Jesus as a divine >>> miracle worker and render him merely a moral philosopher). The position of >>> these Founding Fathers was far from any orthodox theology of divine >>> immanence. >>> >>> >>> >>> Further, the idea that the United States could be a “Christian nation” >>> is theologically problematic. The only “Christian nation” which the New >>> Testament envisions is the Kingdom of God, which transcends national, >>> cultural, and ethnic boundaries. Were the United States to be a “Christian >>> nation,” she would have to do more than celebrate Christmas as a federal >>> holiday and display the Ten Commandments in her courthouses. If she were >>> held to the same standards to which the New Testament holds the Christian >>> community, the United States would have to embody Christian principles, >>> including the mandate to love one’s enemy, eschew power, put away the >>> sword, give freely without any expectation of repayment, and – because she >>> is very rich – sell all her material possessions, donate the proceeds to >>> the poor, then take up a cross of discipleship. The consumerism and >>> materialism which characterize so much of the American ethos – Jefferson’s >>> “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” was a modification of John >>> Locke’s “life, liberty, and the pursuit of property,” and indeed most >>> versions of the American Dream equate property with happiness – seem to be >>> at odds with most versions of core Christian values. In short, the United >>> States is not a “Christian nation,” and simply displaying representations >>> of the Ten Commandments in public locations does not change this reality." >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jaime Solorza >>> mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> yep but you will probably be yelling oh God when under dangerous or >>> extremely pleasurable situation, >>> Like Blood Sweat and Tears said, "I know there is no heaven, but I pray >>> there is no Hell!" >>> zaz...in your face >>> >>> >>> Jaime Solorza >>> Wireless Systems Architect >>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm >>> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> so, we use the Gregorian calendar which is named after a pope... I >>> wonder if I can skip court dates on the grounds it offends me >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> Roadside displays should be free speech. >>> >>> >>> Anything guvmint should be looked at suspiciously. Whether it is >>> christian, jewish, muslim, pagan, or whatever. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:46 PM, Jay Weekley >>> mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe. All those displays of Lady Justice at the court houses have to >>> go. >>> >>> Chuck McCown wrote: >>> > How about flowers or crosses on the side of the road where someone >>> died? >>> > >>> > Do you tear down the pyramids or stone hinge? >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weekley >>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:42 PM >>> > To: af@afmug.com >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again >>> > >>> > Do you stop all religious displays or just Christian, Jewish or Muslim? >>> > There are plenty of religious symbols from ancient religions all over >>> > public property. I'd kind of like them removed as well. >>> > >>> > Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> >> I have a friend who is an atheist. He compares it to how I feel about >>> >> any resources from my tax money going to abortion. Not sure I agree >>> >> with the equivalency of the resources involved but I can see his >>> >> point. If that is his only issue with my stance I would like to ask >>> >> to stop all displays of Nativity Scenes in trade for not funding any >>> >> abortions. Anyway, I thought his argument was fairly reasoned. >>> >> >>> >> I still ddon't understand why they care. It seems some are just >>> >> purely to try and rub Christians nose in the fact they don't believe >>> >> and think you are stupid for doing so. I view it like a lot of >>> >> things. I don't care f you are gay or straight, married or just >>> >> living with someone, Dem or Rep. As long as it doesn't affect me I >>> >> simply don't give a shit. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM That One Guy /sarcasm >>> >> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> attention seeking behavior >>> >> >>> >> most of these "athiests" "agnostics" "satanists" whatever "ist" >>> >> they present as, couldnt even tell you the basic tenets of their >>> >> "ist" and all they do is parrot simplistic talking points from the >>> >> borg of nevergrewups ... "if you celebrate christmas, than a >>> >> pagan" nonsense like that >>> >> >>> >> society has slowly moved to the age of adulthood being a sliding >>> >> scale, with fewer and fewer on the lower end every generation. >>> >> >>> >> the bulk of actual athiests, agnostics, satanists and other non >>> >> attention whore ists could really give a shit less what others do >>> >> >>> >> just remember, just because the loudmouth makes the most noise, it >>> >> doesnt mean they represent the majority of their fellows. Also, >>> >> remember, everyone is unique, just like everyone else. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com >>> >> mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> We have days on the calendar about people. >>> >> Presidents day used to be Wash’n and Linc’n bdays. >>> >> MLK day. >>> >> Casmir Pulaski day. >>> >> Columbus day. >>> >> So, why are the atheists and others so unhappy about displays >>> >> on public property about Jesus. >>> >> I doubt anyone in Illinios would get unhappy if t >>> >>> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
