Yet if I tell a customer with all 2-wire outlets in their old farmhouse to have an electrician wire a couple grounded outlets for their expensive electronics, I’m asking too much. Oh, no, that would cost money.
I’ve had numerous customers with stories like yours, where even the well pump is fried, after wind causes primary wires to touch secondary wires or otherwise cause a voltage surge. And then the customer who saw a fireball erupt from the living room wall socket when lightning hit the transformer on the pole. Another had the yard light explode and the telephone NID burned to a cinder and thrown 20 feet across the front yard. God forbid little Johnny or Susie is touching the computer or TV when that happens. But just use a cheater plug and voila, a 3 prong plug. Or put in a grounding outlet and tie the ground to the white wire. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 5:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Must have forgot their tin-foil towels. I don't know what the voltage would have to be to jump a light switch, but I can tell you that I've seen it. A few years ago, a tree fell in my sister's neighbor's yard and knocked the primaries down on top of her secondaries. So that was at least 12-13kV. It was ugly. Whole house had to be rewired. On 1/2/2017 12:58 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: that device knows I woke up to my cell phone alarm at 7 this morning, brewed myself a cup of coffee at 7:10, and another at 7:25,.and another at 8. Then, I took a shower for 10 minutes and washed dishes after that. From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Seriously... When they publish things like this: "With that flash, every lightbulb in my house had exploded! The old lightbulbs merely popped and shattered. Those new lightbulbs (CFLs) were on fire! I could see smoke, smell burning plastic. I had no idea what happened." So, every lightbulb was on? If not the overvoltage jumped the switch? How much of an overvoltage event does it take to make a lightbulb pop like you see in movies? I have never seen it happen. Especially difficult when the switch is off. All this happened because of a smart meter? And later: "All the while I was experiencing more electrical issues and finding more damage. The craziest thing that occurred was I literally was shocked getting into the shower! I went to grab the nozzle to direct the water down and when I grabbed it, I literally got a jolt of electricity, my hand stuck, my knees buckled and down I went. I didn’t take a shower after that, needless to say. When I came downstairs, I heard water and could hear popping. The main water line from my well had exploded and electricity was sparking from it." http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/06/27/smart-meters-fire-living-hell-and-bureaucratic-messes/ -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Seth, was that meant to be tongue-in-cheek? http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-fires-and-explosions/ On 01/02/2017 10:25 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 1/2/17 09:39, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> Well, I guess if they change out the socket when they change the meter, >> they could put a big ass contactor in there. >> Note the statement uses the future tense “will have remote switching >> capabilities”. Like cars will have the ability to fly... >> > > I suppose the other option would be SCRs, but there's heat issues with > those as they get bigger. An SCR could start an electrical fire if it > overheated. > > ~Seth >