Life insurance is not an investment, it is a risk mitigation tool.  While
life is a bad investment in my opinion.  Take the extra  $2800 or so per
month and invest it yourself and I have always bet that I can do better.

On Jan 14, 2017 10:44 AM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

How did you get a $3,000,000 policy for $80 per month??  That must be term,
right?  I looked into a whole-life policy and $1,000,000 for me and
$500,000 for my wife will set me back about $3,000 per month.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Back from when I started Microserv in 1997, we always had company health
> insurance that was paid, for the entire family of every employee, 100% by
> the company.
>
> We still do that today with my commercial property business. I have 5
> employees, and we pay the entire health, dental and vision insurance for
> the employee and their entire family. Costs us $6,000/month for all 5. This
> is a $500 deductible with $30 co-pay through Blue Cross.
>
> I also have a $3,000,000 life insurance policy that is $80/month that I
> keep personally.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 1/13/2017 1:27 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I get half that coverage for twice that amount.
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 1:07 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
>
> My life insurance is term, $1,000,000 and cost me $65 a month. I am 52.
> Health insurance for my family would be $1050 if I had kids on it and is an
> HSA with a $6500 deductible per insured I think.
>
> Property is a drag if it isn't producing income. If it is it can be great,
> or at least it has been for me. I can say I have anything to complain about
> but I live even more spartan than you as far as accommodations. I think I
> only own 2 rent houses that aren't nicer than the one I live in.
>
> One thing I think is important in a recurring revenue model is making sure
> your pricing keeps pace with inflation. If you don't you make 10% less in 3
> years relatively speaking.
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:02 PM can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> While starting my ISP, I lived very frugally. No paid TV, only made
>> enough to pay bills and make dinner.
>> Now, I'm reaping the rewards of putting all that money back into my
>> company and taking a fat salary
>> and still putting money back into the company.
>>
>> Compared to you, yes, I'm living "extravagantly" now. But if I average it
>> out over the years, I'm still
>> not making much on average. But, it's growing fast. Money does seem to go
>> further for me and this
>> ISP thing seems like an ATM with money constantly rolling in.
>>
>> I don't work as much as I used to and have tons of free time. But, that
>> was by design and why I
>> decided to get into the recurring revenue business.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:23 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> God Bless freaking Obama Care!
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 11:12 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
>>
>>
>> I could literally buy two more houses on my cost of insurances alone.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2017 11:05 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Slightly, Cost of Living
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I am afraid to add up what I spend on all our various
>> insurance policies, business stuff and personal, because I am sure I'd have
>> a heart attack... I think it's a large part of the strain.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm guessing this information is like a lot of you out there.
>>
>> Except maybe my earnings because I am making about double median gross
>> salary for my city.
>>
>> I'm not saying I work double, but I do fulfill many roles as the only
>> salary employee of my startup ISP.
>> I don't think I can replace myself for the same cost to the company, so I
>> feel ok with that.
>>
>> I don't live extravagantly, but I do live comfortably.
>>
>> I have a 3100 sqr foot rambler I've lived in since 2001 with a house
>> payment of around $1500 a month.
>>
>> But my biggest expense is health/insurance and medical.
>>
>> I now pay about $2100 a month for my family health insurance through IHC.
>> I just signed up for a good Dental Gold plan at $100 a month for my
>> family, but since it's not company I have to wait 6-12 months for a lot of
>> the benefits :(
>> The insurance deductibles are I think around $6000 a year and I have
>> medications that eat up most of that.
>>
>> I just upped my life and disability insurance on myself and my wife to
>> make sure things don't go bad if I die, that's around $550 a month.
>>
>> I think I spend about $1000 a month on eating, groceries and movies/date
>> nights, at least that's what I came up to in December so that might be a
>> bit off.
>>
>> I've got real estate I'm still trying to sell, but it's not the panica
>> everyone says it is, lol!
>>
>> I just feel like finances don't go as far as they used to a few years ago.
>>
>> I'm not sparking a political debate, just wanted to see if everyone see
>> things in a similar light?
>>
>> Or am I just doing the wrong things?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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