I know there are, but that isn't how 95% of the subscribers by phones. Most
go to a carrier and buy what they have there and will subsidize or pay out.
Most carriers in Europe, and I could be way off on this as my experience is
limited, had a lot of dual sim options in store.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:04 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> There are plenty of dual sim phones out there. Check www.swappa.com
>
> On Feb 1, 2017 10:57 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yea, I really miss the ability to have two sim cards in a phone. That is
> standard on most every phone, even the cheap ones, in Europe.That way in
> the rural areas I go I could maintain coverage. Typically one carrier is
> weak where another is strong.
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:45 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Go to the Broadband Forum website and look at the Board of Directors.  I
> know half those people from my participation in the first ADSL standard 20
> years ago.  They are all “big telco” people.  TR-069 is what you’d expect
> from them.
>
>
>
> Their world is evolving also, with stuff like small cells, so TR-069 may
> be overkill even for them going forward.  On the other hand, once it is
> built into the operations systems, and network element vendors have the
> software developed, the big telcos may not view it as overkill.
>
>
>
> Not sure if the focus is still on managing CPE, with customers more and
> more buying things like smartphones outright and controlling the firmware
> and configuration themselves.  Do you think of your phone as controlled by
> AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile/Sprint?  Or is it a piece of hardware you own and run
> either iOS or Android on?  Europe and Asia tended more toward the customer
> owned and managed model, but it seems the US is becoming more like Europe,
> where you buy the phone and then get a SIM card from the carrier.  Maybe
> even multiple SIM cards.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>
>
>
> Thanks Simon.  Yes my understanding is that Telrad is going to eventually
> abandon the "Star ACS" system they inherited from Alvaion and put at least
> some TR-69 functions into Breezeview.  I have heard as stated goals that
> Breezeview will collect performance data from the CPE and perform bulk
> firmware updates.  If that's all they ever put into Breezeview, that might
> be enough.  Eventually I'll probably want to do something to every CPE.  I
> don't know specifically what it will be....maybe I'll want to add a
> firewall rule to everybody or lock out another operator's PLMN ID.  When
> that day comes it's either a long, tedious labor investment or have TR-69.
>
>
>
> I don't understand the resistance to SNMP in the LTE world.  Not Invented
> Here?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 2/1/2017 10:49:52 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>
>
>
> I think this is just the way it goes. TR069 is, unfortunately, not a
> simple plug and play solution. Any third party system you get is going to
> require some configuration and fiddling to get working.
>
> I know a few people using
> http://www.friendly-tech.com/products/tr-069-device-management but I
> don't know how much it costs. Since some WISPs are using it, I'm guessing
> it's less than the cost of a car, but I could be wrong..
>
> I think Telrad has something coming out too, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
>
> On 2/1/2017 9:45 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> On a related topic, what about TR69 software?
>
>
>
> I saw GenieACS and FreeACS, but they both required a big time investment.
>
>
>
> Commercial TR69 servers appear to all be big $$.  I'm wondering if there's
> something basic that costs less than a used car :)
>
> We paid $6k for a TR69 ACS and it's junk.  The front end is a JBoss web
> page, and it's fussy about which JRE and browser you use with it.  An
> unexpected reset broke something in the backend database, and the vendor
> had to get in and fix it.....and apparently we're not allowed to know what
> the fix is, so if it ever happens again the system will just be down until
> they can look at it.
>
>
>
> I would love suggestions for an ACS that is reliable and not a 5 figure
> purchase.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 2/1/2017 8:57:26 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>
>
>
> Take a look at  OMD Check_mk....
>
>
>
> (aka a GUI + Nagios + Graphing + + +  etc etc etc)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:27:33 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>
> Revisiting this, what are others using for SNMP Monitoring?
>
> -Jason
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Simon Westlake
>
> Email: simon@sonar.software
>
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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