UTOPIA didn't exactly set the world on fire down here.

-----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CenturyLink installing these

The dark fiber loop in my city (Idaho Falls, Idaho) works extremely well
for the entire city. There are many providers, even private companies,
that lease a dark fiber pair and pay the city a monthly rate.

Travis


On 2/1/2017 3:40 PM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
Chuck McCown wrote:
Who owns the dark fiber network?
Government - we all know how good they are at doing things like this.
Others manage. See for example Stokab owned by the city of Stockholm in Sweden.

Private - so we create good old Ma Bell all over again?
   First, it does not have to be a single private company.

Second, the owner being a private company need not be a problem. Non-discriminatory access to everybody, at set rates with prohibitions against cross-ownership and the offering of retail services. See examples from other industries with wholesale infrastructure providers and structural separation in the telecom industry.

Third, there's a pretty big difference between recreating Ma Bell and creating a (regional) dark fiber company that does nothing else than rent dark fiber.

Existing carriers forced to open their networks? OK if you like the Venezuela solution to things.
My proposal does not require existing carriers to open up their networks.

New networks built by low bidder defense contractor? Great, replication and tax bite too.
Where did this come from? I said nothing about defense contractors or tax financing.


Jared


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