NETCONF is for configuration, not data export.

XML formatting is nice, and might be useful in a monitoring method not
reliant on MIBs.

I've actually been rolling this around in my brain today... Like if I were
to build a open standard for a real SNMP replacement, what features would
it have?

Authentication
Delivery Reliability
Multiple Endpoints
Per-Metric Subscription (Per Endpoint)
Low network overhead
Low CPU overhead
Data Push as well as Data Pull
Structured, descriptive data format
Optional Encryption


I have some ideas on how to accomplish most of this, but I'm curious as to
what else people want/need.


On Feb 1, 2017 10:49 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Netconf
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/1/2017 11:19:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>
> Like SNMP and DNS
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> On Feb 1, 2017 7:21 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> SNMP is an old technology and has needed to be replaced for a while.
>> (Un)Fortunately, it's universal.
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:23:43 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>>
>> Thanks Simon.  Yes my understanding is that Telrad is going to eventually
>> abandon the "Star ACS" system they inherited from Alvaion and put at least
>> some TR-69 functions into Breezeview.  I have heard as stated goals that
>> Breezeview will collect performance data from the CPE and perform bulk
>> firmware updates.  If that's all they ever put into Breezeview, that might
>> be enough.  Eventually I'll probably want to do something to every CPE.  I
>> don't know specifically what it will be....maybe I'll want to add a
>> firewall rule to everybody or lock out another operator's PLMN ID.  When
>> that day comes it's either a long, tedious labor investment or have TR-69.
>>
>> I don't understand the resistance to SNMP in the LTE world.  Not Invented
>> Here?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 2/1/2017 10:49:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>>
>> I think this is just the way it goes. TR069 is, unfortunately, not a
>> simple plug and play solution. Any third party system you get is going to
>> require some configuration and fiddling to get working.
>>
>> I know a few people using http://www.friendly-tech.com/p
>> roducts/tr-069-device-management but I don't know how much it costs.
>> Since some WISPs are using it, I'm guessing it's less than the cost of a
>> car, but I could be wrong..
>>
>> I think Telrad has something coming out too, but I'm not 100% sure on
>> that.
>>
>> On 2/1/2017 9:45 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> On a related topic, what about TR69 software?
>>
>> I saw GenieACS and FreeACS, but they both required a big time investment.
>>
>> Commercial TR69 servers appear to all be big $.  I'm wondering if there's
>> something basic that costs less than a used car :)
>> We paid $6k for a TR69 ACS and it's junk.  The front end is a JBoss web
>> page, and it's fussy about which JRE and browser you use with it.  An
>> unexpected reset broke something in the backend database, and the vendor
>> had to get in and fix it.....and apparently we're not allowed to know what
>> the fix is, so if it ever happens again the system will just be down until
>> they can look at it.
>>
>> I would love suggestions for an ACS that is reliable and not a 5 figure
>> purchase.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 2/1/2017 8:57:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>>
>> Take a look at  OMD Check_mk....
>>
>> (aka a GUI + Nagios + Graphing + + +  etc etc etc)
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
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>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:27:33 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] SNMP Monitoring Programs
>>
>> Revisiting this, what are others using for SNMP Monitoring?
>> -Jason
>>
>>
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