When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative" fee for having
net metering.  Effective Jan 1, they charge an additional $7/kw of
installed capacity to offset the lower power usage.

I think this new charge literally effects only 1 of their customers.  I
believe their fear is that things like Tesla powerwall will take off and
they won't be able to afford their current lifestyle.  ;-)

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I pay 8.50/month.  Flat rate.
> So you are getting a demand charge added?
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?
> Agreed!
>
> I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly
> they will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batteries.
> I'll let you guys know in 10-15 years.
>
> My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much power so the
> power company added a net meter fee of $7/kw/mo to make up the difference.
>
> Alrighty then, guess I'll take half my house off grid. :-)
>
> Hal
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable for cyclic
> solar/wind power applications. If the manufacturer hasn't clearly specified
> Ah capacity in a table at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for
> repeated discharge.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically are not true deep
> cycle batteries. At 50% depth of discharge, you can expect around 300
> cycles (or 1 year if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do
> about 3x that number.
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote:
>
> Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81
>
>
> http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-1444430136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928
>
>
> On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
> selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:
>
>
> http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf
>
> Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But
> they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep
> cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing
> that beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I can across an interesting tip / option -
>
> Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded lead
> acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart
> batteries in PV applications.
>
>
> http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html
>
> I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family eats
> their Wheaties on moving day. :-)
>
> Hal
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid
> PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for
> something like the Trojan T31 or similar.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Harold Bledsoe
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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