When we first did it, we had to pay a $5/mo "administrative" fee for having net metering. Effective Jan 1, they charge an additional $7/kw of installed capacity to offset the lower power usage.
I think this new charge literally effects only 1 of their customers. I believe their fear is that things like Tesla powerwall will take off and they won't be able to afford their current lifestyle. ;-) On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:32 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I pay 8.50/month. Flat rate. > So you are getting a demand charge added? > > *From:* Harold Bledsoe > *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 5:37 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals? > Agreed! > > I'm going to pull the trigger and try the forklift batteries. Supposedly > they will last 3-5x longer than regular deep cycle golf cart batteries. > I'll let you guys know in 10-15 years. > > My motivation is that my home grid tied system saves too much power so the > power company added a net meter fee of $7/kw/mo to make up the difference. > > Alrighty then, guess I'll take half my house off grid. :-) > > Hal > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anything rated in CCA (cold cranking amps) is not suitable for cyclic > solar/wind power applications. If the manufacturer hasn't clearly specified > Ah capacity in a table at 5, 10, 20 hour rates it's not designed for > repeated discharge. > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Beware of deep cycle marine batteries. These typically are not true deep > cycle batteries. At 50% depth of discharge, you can expect around 300 > cycles (or 1 year if doing it daily). A true deep cycle battery will do > about 3x that number. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:00 PM Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote: > > Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81 > > > http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-1444430136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928 > > > On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is > selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping: > > > http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf > > Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But > they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep > cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing > that beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan. > > > > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I can across an interesting tip / option - > > Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded lead > acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart > batteries in PV applications. > > > http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html > > I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family eats > their Wheaties on moving day. :-) > > Hal > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid > PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for > something like the Trojan T31 or similar. > > > > -- > > Harold Bledsoe > > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > > Harold Bledsoe > > -- > > Harold Bledsoe >