If the thoughput isn't there at 99.999%, it's not worth having.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:39:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput Well, he didn't say he needed 500Mbps at 99.999%... On Feb 8, 2017 8:03 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: I have a ~14 mile path now that even with 6' dishes, 11 GHz simply won't do. 99.999% at only a 228 megabit modulation with a PTP820c. I could get 500 with both polarities and the 820s. That's a lotta spend for 500 megabit. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:01:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput At 15 miles and 11G 500Mbs is unlikely. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017, 7:58 PM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Even with 6' dishes, availability would have to be pretty poor... unless it's in a desert. 11ghz should be possible, but yeah, probably going to want at least 4' dishes. Id you want cheap, either a B11 or AF-11FX link should be able to hit that kind of speeds. On Feb 8, 2017 7:51 PM, "Jeremy" < jeremysmi...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> I have seen an 18GHz link that far with 6' dishes. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> Not a chance at 18. Maybe 11, but that's even far for 11 GHz without huge dishes. Play with Mimosa's designer, Cambium's LinkPlanner, etc. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Brett A Mansfield" < li...@silverlakeinternet.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:38:58 PM Subject: [AFMUG] 11GHz and 18GHz real throughput Hi, I've never yet done a licensed link and there is plenty of these two frequencies available in my area. I need to be able to get 500Mbps at about 15 miles. Is that possible with either of these? What kind of real world speeds can I expect out of these and what channel size do I need to license to get those speeds? Is there something else I should consider? What brand/model radios and dishes, what other frequencies for easier licensing, etc? It would be great to be able to get a gig that distance, but I'm trying to be realistic and get just what I really need to start with. No legal advice please, just your experience with it and any knowledge you'd be able/willing to share with the licensing of these frequencies. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>