Either he will have to quit, die, have a stoke or figure out how to take the 
criticism.  No way around it.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

I'm not so confident that we will survive him. It's gonna be a rough 4 years if 
he lasts that long. I keep having visions of the Martian's heads exploding when 
they hear Slim Whitman's "Indian Love Call."

I have to mute the sound whenever I hear him speak. He is such a snake oil 
salesman that I almost go apoplectic.

It's really irritating that he doesn't seem to be able to deal with criticism. 
Did he not know that the president gets criticism from all corners? Jeez guy, 
get a pair.

With his picking fights with (for example) Australia, I do not get a warm and 
fuzzy feeling about this.




bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/16/2017 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  We will survive him.  I really like what the stock market is doing.  UAW 
pushing buy American again.  Liberal heads exploding.  All good stuff.  

  I still don’t like him, probably never will.  But I do enjoy seeing him 
giving the media crap.  I like that he is unpredictable.  Bull in china shop, 
monkey with machine gun maybe it will churn the swamp enough to actually change 
things.  

  Funny, someone needled him about whether or not he read some document, he 
missed the classic Nancy Pelosi “we have to pass the bill so you can find out 
what’s in it comment”...  Would have been a good rejoinder.  

  Just so he does not start another shooting war...

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:51 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left

  For all of our sakes I hope he is really going to be good at his new job and 
that the press really is being unfair to him.
  I listened to some of the press conference on NPR today during lunch.  He 
definitely was combative with the press.  

  I think it's pretty clear to anyone that he won only just barely.  The 
numbers speak for themselves.  But like the inauguration crowd thing, he just 
can't accept it for some reason.  On this particular point at least he needs to 
grow up.


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
  To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
  Sent: 2/16/2017 5:34:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left

    Now my sides are aching.... Fine tuned machine....  

    
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Famphtml%2Fnews%2Fpost-politics%2Fwp%2F2017%2F02%2F16%2Ftrump-says-he-inherited-a-mess-blasts-media-and-detractors-for-treatment-of-his-administration%2F#pt0-543071


    On Feb 16, 2017 3:31 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      I will always wonder about agent orange.  When I was a kid, my dad sold 
farm chemicals to supplement the meager living the dry land wheat farm/ranch 
was producing.  We had barrels of 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T around and I remember 
getting coated with the stuff by an aerial applicator once.  The barrels were 
actually orange and had the Olin logos on them.  This was early 1960s.  None of 
us ever suffered the symptoms commonly associated with agent orange.  Odd... 

      From: Bill Prince 
      Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:26 PM
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he left

      Any relationship between reality and Agent Orange is purely coincidental.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/16/2017 2:06 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        Strange.  I think he purchased a reality distortion field generator 
from Steve Jobs but does not understand that it only works in Cupertino.  

        From: Jaime Solorza 
        Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:50 PM
        To: Animal Farm 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers before he 
left

        Laughing my ass off 
        
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Famp.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2F98002648%2F#pt0-986112




        On Feb 16, 2017 2:00 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

          You made me look it up Josh. Not having had to cross the border in a 
while, I was in the dark. Then, as it happens, I listened to this podcast:

            http://www.wnyc.org/story/what-we-know-about-border/



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/15/2017 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

            You are not protected by the Constitution when at the border. DHS 
has legal rights to detain you indefinitely until they feel like you are not a 
threat. 

            Good luck with that.

            On Feb 15, 2017 5:21 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

              If someone asks me to unlock my phone, I would ask them to show 
me their warrant.



              On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:




              This recently happened to an individual with a government issued 
phone from NASA JPL, and there's a huge stink because the DHS didn't have 
clearance to view the classification of the material on this device.

              On Feb 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

                If you travel outside the country, and carry any electronic 
devices like phones and laptops, be prepared for the possibility they may 
demand that you unlock the device and let them rummage through your files and 
social media posts.  Even if you are just an ordinary citizen.  If you think 
they need a warrant for this, you would be mistaken.  They can probably only 
detain your for maybe a day and confiscate your phone, but you don’t have the 
same rights as you  would if a cop stopped you on the street.

                There are rumors the retro Nokia 3310 phone will be revived.  
That would probably be a good one to take on foreign trips.


                From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
                Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:40 PM
                To: af@afmug.com
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers 
before he left

                Computer wore tennis shoes.
                Janitor
                Mop bucket
                Been done before

                From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
                Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:34 PM
                To: af@afmug.com 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New Powers 
before he left

                This is interesting, explains alot of the leakage. so basically 
now the janitors can take a little gander every now and then

                On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> 
wrote:
                  The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what 
the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful 
surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping 
laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails 
that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that 
cross domestic network switches.

                  
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/




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