That's one thing about living in texas. Everyone had a truck
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 1:46 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's the worst thing about being "the one" with the truck in a circle of
> friends. Everyone starts thinking your middle name is Bekins.
>
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> On 2/18/2017 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> I hate moving... I had a sticker on my truck... "Yes, this is my truck.
> NO, I am not going to help you move!! ". Someone tore it off.. My
> daughter bought new house last summer.... I helped move stuff and connected
> all her electronic devices.... Even marking boxes ,things disappear for a
> few weeks...
>
> On Feb 18, 2017 12:30 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Good,. Sold my house. In the middle of moving. Big bummer.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017, 7:34 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Good morning Lewis, the coffee is ready, I added some cinnamon to it,
> Bacon on stove.... Making breakfast for wife... She works today, I have to
> stay home with contractors when they arrive at 9 ....how's your morning?
>
> On Feb 18, 2017 6:04 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sorry again.
>
> I don't think there will be any rail jobs lost. I know some people in the
> rail business and there is a pretty large backlog. Not that they are happy
> about taking freight of their books but I seriously doubt they will lau
> people off. The biggest reason is that their cost to lay their people of
> is quite large.
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 8:39 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think the points on oil you make are valid. Your point that I have
> no clue, is a personal attack a) in that you have no idea who I am b)
> you have no idea of what I know or how I might know what I profess to
> know.
>
> You may debate that there are two factions controlling this effort and
> their motives but that isn't what you said. And that is what I am
> trying to get you and others to understand. This situation is exactly
> about what method to transport and the profits of those methods. Obama
> was backed by railroaders and trump is aligned with pipers.. I don't
> think he is "backed" but the partners he plays with are in the other
> camp. And the number of railroad workers put out of work by this
> pipeline isn't being considered by trump and after construction, it's
> similar to the other side.
>
> On 2/17/17 7:11 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> > I don' think I made a personal attack. I said , in this case, you had no
> > clue. I think, being that I am always right in my own mind, that
> > statement is accurate. It isn't personal as I don't even know who you
> are.
> >
> > I obviously offended you and for that, I apologize.
> > It is fun to play conspiracy theory all day. In this case, the
> > conspiracy is really about buying votes and favor from voters and party
> > factions with policy. Yes, that translates to political power which also
> > translates to money. Lets be honest, doesn't about 85% of the crap each
> > of us do all day have to do with money? Obama didn't want the pipeline
> > because a faction of his party hated the idea. Mostly a symbolic fight
> > as pipeline or no pipeline the oil still moves. Trump wants the pipeline
> > because he made promises about jobs and again, it is a symbol, this time
> > about how gov gets in the way of business.
> >
> > In the end, the oil still moves. If everyone who hates oil and coal
> > would just stop using any good or service that benefits as a result of
> > those fuels the problem would be solved. Oh yea, you can't because
> > literally everything is impacted by one of those. Why, because to date,
> > it has the highest energy output for the cost. Address that and the
> > issue will take care of itself.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:27 AM Robert <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, Lewis,
> > Shift to a personal attack.
> >
> > I am saying that there is a back story to a lot of this
> > enviro whacko
> > stuff. And the There is $$ that is funneled into that from those
> that
> > have that in spades. As there is money that is funneled into the
> other
> > side. That's the money that the Indians are getting. Yes Buffett
> > benefits from railroad transport, he has Yuge investments in the
> > railroads in the US and oil transport. AND, interestingly, he
> benefits
> > when coal starts getting transported in larger amounts. Koch
> brothers
> > still have huge investments in the pipeline infrastructure in the US.
> > Go back 20 years ago and it was estimated that they had direct and
> > indirect control of 80 percent of buried pipeline in the US. They
> have
> > decreased investment into pipelines greatly. But are still in the
> game
> > in a major way.
> >
> >
> https://cleantechnica.com/2015/02/10/transportation-game-keystone-xl-pipeline-koch-brothers-cant-let-go/
> >
> >
> > On 2/17/17 5:19 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> > > Oh I got it. You have no clue, at least in this case. If you look
> > at the
> > > reasoning behind its delay it was enviro whacko appeasement. Not
> > saying
> > > Buffet didn't benefit but that wasn't the reason. Koch brothers
> > have as
> > > little to do with it being built as Buffet did with its delay. The
> > > current "build it NOW" isn't based on Koch contributions; its
> based on
> > > low hanging fruit for Trump to pick saying he is a winner creating
> > jobs.
> > >
> > > In the end, Pipelines are more efficient and safer than trains for
> > > moving oil. For other things, trains are great. Trains are great
> > UNTIL a
> > > pipeline is built. Having dealt with the indian nations over the
> last
> > > couple of decades with NEPA studies and the like they have no
> standing
> > > in my mind. They really couldn't care about what harm you might or
> > might
> > > not do to some ancient ancestral grounds. They base their bribe
> > request
> > > on what they think they can get out of you.
> > > I know...not politically correct. So what.
> > >
> > > Really, this kind of over simplification and demonizing crap is
> > what got
> > > us where we are today.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:14 PM Robert <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Follow the money... Pipeline vs tank car is all about who is
> > profiting
> > > from moving the oil... Tank car is Buffett, Oil line is Koch
> > > brothers... Got it?
> > >
> > > On 2/16/17 5:31 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> > > > Really? Pipeline? So you think carying all that oil via
> > train is
> > > safer
> > > > and has less a footprint?
> > > >
> > > > I really don't give a crap, just don't get the arguement.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017, 5:50 PM Jaime Solorza
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]
> >>
> > > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i have 100% confidence in our system... Zero in Trump's
> > ability to
> > > > do anything worthwhile.... He does the glamour shots...
> > Repeal
> > > > restrictions on dumping coal related crap into streams
> and
> > > forest in
> > > > the name of creating jobs... Same with pipe line.....
> Short
> > > > sighted.... Our mother has been raped and left to die in
> > > disgrace..
> > > > Stock market will do what it does in long run with or
> > without help
> > > > of Afraid of his Shadow, Draft Dodging, Clown Trump...
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 16, 2017 4:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, my investment advisor just recommended moving
> > out of
> > > > individual stocks and into managed funds of mixed
> > bonds and
> > > > equities, as well as emphasizing Europe. Evidently
> > their
> > > > analysts believe we are into a bubble in US stock
> > prices and
> > > > that President Agent Orange is likely to mess
> > something up but
> > > > no way to predict what it will be and hedge against
> > it.____
> > > >
> > > > __ __
> > > >
> > > > __ __
> > > >
> > > > *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:59 PM
> > > > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama
> > > admin...____
> > > >
> > > > __ __
> > > >
> > > > We will survive him. I really like what the stock
> > market is
> > > > doing. UAW pushing buy American again. Liberal
> heads
> > > > exploding. All good stuff. ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > I still don’t like him, probably never will. But I
> > do enjoy
> > > > seeing him giving the media crap. I like that he is
> > > > unpredictable. Bull in china shop, monkey with
> > machine gun
> > > > maybe it will churn the swamp enough to actually
> change
> > > things.
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > Funny, someone needled him about whether or not he
> > read some
> > > > document, he missed the classic Nancy Pelosi “we
> > have to pass
> > > > the bill so you can find out what’s in it
> > comment”... Would
> > > > have been a good rejoinder. ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > Just so he does not start another shooting war...____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > *From:*Adam Moffett ____
> > > >
> > > > *Sent:*Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:51 PM____
> > > >
> > > > *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> ____
> > > >
> > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New
> > Powers
> > > > before he left____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > For all of our sakes I hope he is really going to be
> > good
> > > at his
> > > > new job and that the press really is being unfair to
> > him.____
> > > >
> > > > I listened to some of the press conference on NPR
> > today during
> > > > lunch. He definitely was combative with the press.
> > ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > I think it's pretty clear to anyone that he won only
> > just
> > > > barely. The numbers speak for themselves. But like
> the
> > > > inauguration crowd thing, he just can't accept it
> > for some
> > > > reason. On this particular point at least he needs
> to
> > > grow up.____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > ------ Original Message ------____
> > > >
> > > > From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>
> > > <mailto:[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>>>____
> > > >
> > > > To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>____
> > > >
> > > > Sent: 2/16/2017 5:34:59 PM____
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Obama Admin Gave NSA Broad New
> > Powers
> > > > before he left____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > Now my sides are aching.... Fine tuned
> > machine.... ____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Famphtml%2Fnews%2Fpost-politics%2Fwp%2F2017%2F02%2F16%2Ftrump-says-he-inherited-a-mess-blasts-media-and-detractors-for-treatment-of-his-administration%2F#pt0-543071____
> > > >
> > > > ____
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 16, 2017 3:31 PM, "Chuck McCown"
> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
> > > wrote:____
> > > >
> > > > I will always wonder about agent orange.
> > When I was a
> > > > kid, my dad sold farm chemicals to
> > supplement the
> > > meager
> > > > living the dry land wheat farm/ranch was
> > > producing. We
> > > > had barrels of 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T around and
> > I remember
> > > > getting coated with the stuff by an aerial
> > applicator
> > > > once. The barrels were actually orange and
> had
> > > the Olin
>
> > > > logos on them. This was early 1960s.
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