I used to have a way to figure it out.  I don’t remember how I did it other 
than link tests were involved.  I think I link tested every SM one by one on an 
AP until.... something happened...
Perhaps until a particular IP stopped pinging or ???

From: Dennis Burgess 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that subnet.  
DHCP-Alert is what you want.

 

 

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MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

 

Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.

I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but  its 
a pain

I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines. 
collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that

 

 

I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface, it 
doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well sometimes 
its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot cycling up in 
switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot with netgear macs.

 

alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding or 
otherwise apparently even active

 

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Oh?  I never noticed that feature.

   

  If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at 
that point.  That's really all you need.

   

   

  ------ Original Message ------

  From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>

  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

  Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

   

    MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the 
dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC 
address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a 
DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.  

     

     

    Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 

    MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

     

    For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

    Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 

    Office: 314-735-0270

    E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

     

    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
    Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

     

    Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch though.  
 Nettoix I belive does it.

     

     

    Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 

    MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

     

    For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

    Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 

    Office: 314-735-0270

    E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

     

    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
    Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

     

    Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.


    I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things 
configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in Canopy 
equipment labeled "SM Isolation".

    Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.  
That's a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.

     

    If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a 
DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the boxes 
for "add default route" and "add peer DNS".  That might be the kind of quick, 
simple test you're hoping for.

     

     

     

     

    ------ Original Message ------

    From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>

    To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

    Sent: 2/27/2017 4:42:02 PM

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

     

      clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?

       

      On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> 
wrote:

        There is no reason why it would and should not .  J  You can easily 
allow the one offs …  

         

         

        Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 

        MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, 
MTCINE

         

        For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

        Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 

        Office: 314-735-0270

        E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

         

        From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy 
/sarcasm
        Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

         

        A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B 
client isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know

         

        On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess 
<dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:

          Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI. 

           

           

          Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 

          MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, 
MTCINE

           

          For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net

          Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com 

          Office: 314-735-0270

          E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net 

           

          From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy 
/sarcasm
          Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
          To: af@afmug.com
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

           

          I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general

          another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks 
recently had a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple 
locations from the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so 
they were directly communicating

           

          On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

            You might find the useful.

             

            https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640

             

             

            Regards.

             

            Faisal Imtiaz
            Snappy Internet & Telecom
            7266 SW 48 Street
            Miami, FL 33155
            Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

            Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net

             


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              From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
              To: af@afmug.com
              Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
              Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

              If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is 
there an arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a 
subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?



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