Rouge dhcp server along with mac and IP.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

DHCP alert will tell me if there is an IP thats not a DHCP server?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Dennis Burgess 
<dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that subnet.  
DHCP-Alert is what you want.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but  its 
a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines. 
collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that


I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface, it 
doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well sometimes 
its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot cycling up in 
switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot with netgear macs.

alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding or 
otherwise apparently even active

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett 
<dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Oh?  I never noticed that feature.

If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at that 
point.  That's really all you need.


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MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the dhcp 
sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC address 
etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a DHCP client 
on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch though.   
Nettoix I belive does it.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.

I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things 
configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in Canopy 
equipment labeled "SM Isolation".
Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.  That's 
a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.

If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a 
DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the boxes 
for "add default route" and "add peer DNS".  That might be the kind of quick, 
simple test you're hoping for.




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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess 
<dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
There is no reason why it would and should not .  ☺  You can easily allow the 
one offs …


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A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B client 
isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess 
<dmburg...@linktechs.net<mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI.


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Of That One Guy /sarcasm
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently had a 
slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations from the 
same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they were directly 
communicating

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
You might find the useful.

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640


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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an 
arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a subnet on 
the interface and there wont be an arp entry?


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