DHCP alert will tell me if there is an IP thats not a DHCP server?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
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> ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that subnet.
> DHCP-Alert is what you want.
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> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
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> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
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> I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that bridge, but
>  its a pain
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> I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those lines.
> collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that
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> I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the interface,
> it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
> sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off like a reboot
> cycling up in switch then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
> with netgear macs.
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> alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not responding
> or otherwise apparently even active
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
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> If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to find them at
> that point.  That's really all you need.
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> ------ Original Message ------
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> From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
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> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
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> Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It will not detect the
> dhcp sever on the router.  It will give you basic information such as MAC
> address etc, but really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a
> DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and turn them off.
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> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a dumb switch
> though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a switch, then no.
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> I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally have things
> configured, and I think you're talking specifically about the feature in
> Canopy equipment labeled "SM Isolation".
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> Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't break everyone.
> That's a multi-faceted thing and SM Isolation is one component of it.
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> If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in backwards, add a
> DHCP-client to the interface facing the AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the
> boxes for "add default route" and "add peer DNS".  That might be the kind
> of quick, simple test you're hoping for.
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> ------ Original Message ------
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> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
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> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
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> Sent: 2/27/2017 4:42:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> clients on two different access points wil be blocked by client isolation?
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
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> There is no reason why it would and should not .  J  You can easily allow
> the one offs …
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> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> A. we have some locations where we dont use client isolation and B client
> isolation doesnt apply to two access points as far as I know
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
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> Your client isolation should take care of that.  FYI.
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> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for rogue subnets in general
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> another issue example is that a customer with some time clocks recently
> had a slick tech put a switch in before the router at multiple locations
> from the same site, different APs, we bridge the APs at the POP, so they
> were directly communicating
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> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
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> You might find the useful.
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> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640
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> Regards.
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> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017 11:34:59 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets
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> If, for example a customer has a router connected backward, is there an
> arp(ish) check aside from packet sniffing to see this since its not a
> subnet on the interface and there wont be an arp entry?
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