Who did you get the Alphion quote through? On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So how much are you guys paying for this ZTE stuff? > > I just got a quote from Alphion and it's really not bad. I signed an NDA, > so I can't tell....but the single port CPE is very close to an RB260 + SFP. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> > To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Sent: 3/9/2017 3:26:35 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON > > Thanks Gerard! What kind of management interface does the rectifier has? > > btw: you guys have any bitcoin left and sold recently? > > From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of > Gerard Dupont <ger...@shelbybb.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ger...@shelbybb.com');>> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 3:18 PM > To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON > > 1xC320 Chassis > 1xSMXA/3 10G main control board (SMXA/1 for 1G uplinks only) > 1xPRAM AC Power Supply/battery charger board > 1xGTGH 16port OLT board > 16xC++ OLT SFP Modules > 1xFan tray > +Power Cords > > This leaves a free slot which you can install a 16 port GPON or EPON board > or a 24 port SFP board for 48 AE customers using CSFP modules. > > If you already have +/- 48volt available, you can get a second SMXA > instead of the PRAM and have redundant control boards and more uplink > capacity. > > Did anyone else get an email from a ZTE sales rep after posting on this > thread? > > Gerard > > > > *Gino Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@aeronetpr.com');>> wrote: > >> Gerad, got a part number list to share? >> >> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on behalf of >> Gerard Dupont <ger...@shelbybb.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ger...@shelbybb.com');>> >> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < >> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> >> Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM >> To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < >> af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >> >> Custom scripts that use the cli and snmp. For our latest build we are >> trying Ikarus. (Ikarus has the functionality, but I hate the web interface. >> Trying to get them to redesign it for us.) >> >> >> >> >> *Gino Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:39 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@kyneticwifi.com');>> wrote: >> >>> What tools are you using for management? >>> >>> On Mar 8, 2017 10:01 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" <ger...@shelbybb.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ger...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Chris, >>>> >>>> Nothing I have requires any additional fees. I'm not using their >>>> management system and I don't have any support at all. Yes, from a seller >>>> we originally found on Alibaba. >>>> >>>> Gerard >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@lakenetmi.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>> Gerard, >>>>> Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software >>>>> licenses for this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, $5.50 >>>>> per ONT, etc. Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? Are >>>>> you buying them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the >>>>> licenscing/server software? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III < >>>>> ger...@shelbybb.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ger...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO 8 >>>>>> port card. >>>>>> >>>>>> We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco >>>>>> batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards >>>>>> with a >>>>>> PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the >>>>>> SMXA uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just 1G. >>>>>> Card SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the >>>>>> ETP4830-A1, >>>>>> one of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have >>>>>> RS232/RS485. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE- >>>>>>> OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0. >>>>>>> 0.zODsrR&s=p >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics. LOL! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying Alphion, >>>>>>>>> ZTE. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','p...@paulstewart.org');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting …. do they work ok? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … >>>>>>>>>> considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from >>>>>>>>>> China and >>>>>>>>>> it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my >>>>>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics >>>>>>>>>> and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 >>>>>>>>>> depending on >>>>>>>>>> the split. Check Alibaba. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup < >>>>>>>>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','george.sko...@cbcast.com');>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and >>>>>>>>>>> throw in another OLT if needed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial deployment >>>>>>>>>>> was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did 16x1. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" < >>>>>>>>>>> sterl...@avative.net >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control in >>>>>>>>>>>> cabinets. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well into >>>>>>>>>>>> the future. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, which >>>>>>>>>>>> might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want super high >>>>>>>>>>>> FDX. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade old I >>>>>>>>>>>> can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each if I want >>>>>>>>>>>> to carry >>>>>>>>>>>> that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and it’s >>>>>>>>>>>> essentially >>>>>>>>>>>> backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood runs are short >>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>> mine. But again, lots of power is required. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] * On >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and >>>>>>>>>>>> multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP >>>>>>>>>>>> has to >>>>>>>>>>>> change. All the splitters etc still work. That will give >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone on the >>>>>>>>>>>> PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So >>>>>>>>>>>> oversubscribing 3:1 >>>>>>>>>>>> you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run out >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> headroom. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being >>>>>>>>>>>> released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Alcantar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / car...@race.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','car...@race.com');> / >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.race.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','george.sko...@cbcast.com');>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using >>>>>>>>>>>> cell phones and watching Netflix. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and resources >>>>>>>>>>>> for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there next week and >>>>>>>>>>>> turn up >>>>>>>>>>>> another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less than 100Mbps >>>>>>>>>>>> every night. >>>>>>>>>>>> The network owner was convinced that everyone had to have 1G FDX. >>>>>>>>>>>> They just >>>>>>>>>>>> don't realize how much electronics and power is required for 1k >>>>>>>>>>>> ports. >>>>>>>>>>>> There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, for the love of >>>>>>>>>>>> god, >>>>>>>>>>>> lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a >>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and it >>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>> fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up some >>>>>>>>>>>> cash for >>>>>>>>>>>> it, then we'll build it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alphion does, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of costs are you talking? >>>>>>>>>>>> Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: Saturday, >>>>>>>>>>>> March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> ; >>>>>>>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','memb...@wispa.org');> Subject: >>>>>>>>>>>> [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of AE >>>>>>>>>>>> this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. Has >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what else >>>>>>>>>>>> have you >>>>>>>>>>>> used for small deployments? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >