Carlos, What software version is on your shelf? 2.0.x? What about your NetNumen version? Do their licenses go in NetNumen?
Jason, They quoted me $1200 for first OLT shelf, $600 for each additional. On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Carlos Alcantar <car...@race.com> wrote: > Just to jump in here we have a zte gpon shelf in our lab, they do have a > management system that can fully manage a multiple shelfs. If this is your > first go around with a vendor I would highly suggest reaching out to them, > its worth paying for the support. > > > Carlos Alcantar > > Race Communications / Race Team Member > > 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 > > Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <(415)%20376-3314> / car...@race.com / http:// > www.race.com > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2017 1:55:06 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON > > Gerard - > > Thanks for the information, what is the pricing like on that software? > > On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Gerard Dupont III <ger...@shelbybb.com> wrote: > >> Jason, >> >> No there isn't a web interface for what I have. I don't know what's >> available from ZTE USA. >> >> I'm testing a third party web based management software called Ikarus. >> http://www.ztegpon.com/index.php?page=ikarus >> >> Gerard >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Jason McKemie < >> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >> >>> I received an email. >>> >>> So there is no web-based administration? Command line would suffice if >>> that was available, but I'm not interested in writing my own management >>> system at this juncture. >>> >>> Looking at the numbers I still feel that active is more suited to my >>> deployment unless I needed to shoehorn a group of customers onto limited >>> fiber. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 9, 2017, Gerard Dupont III <ger...@shelbybb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 1xC320 Chassis >>>> 1xSMXA/3 10G main control board (SMXA/1 for 1G uplinks only) >>>> 1xPRAM AC Power Supply/battery charger board >>>> 1xGTGH 16port OLT board >>>> 16xC++ OLT SFP Modules >>>> 1xFan tray >>>> +Power Cords >>>> >>>> This leaves a free slot which you can install a 16 port GPON or EPON >>>> board or a 24 port SFP board for 48 AE customers using CSFP modules. >>>> >>>> If you already have +/- 48volt available, you can get a second SMXA >>>> instead of the PRAM and have redundant control boards and more uplink >>>> capacity. >>>> >>>> Did anyone else get an email from a ZTE sales rep after posting on this >>>> thread? >>>> >>>> Gerard >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gerad, got a part number list to share? >>>>> >>>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gerard Dupont < >>>>> ger...@shelbybb.com> >>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Date: Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM >>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>> >>>>> Custom scripts that use the cli and snmp. For our latest build we are >>>>> trying Ikarus. (Ikarus has the functionality, but I hate the web >>>>> interface. >>>>> Trying to get them to redesign it for us.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Gino Villarini* >>>>> President >>>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 12:39 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What tools are you using for management? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 8, 2017 10:01 PM, "Gerard Dupont III" <ger...@shelbybb.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing I have requires any additional fees. I'm not using their >>>>>>> management system and I don't have any support at all. Yes, from a >>>>>>> seller >>>>>>> we originally found on Alibaba. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gerard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> Gerard, >>>>>>>> Looking at Baltic's website they seem to sell several software >>>>>>>> licenses for this ZTE GPON equipment. Like $50 per PON Port license, >>>>>>>> $5.50 >>>>>>>> per ONT, etc. Also $2100 for some server software. Are these required? >>>>>>>> Are >>>>>>>> you buying them on AliBaba? Or does it somehow work without the >>>>>>>> licenscing/server software? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gerard Dupont III < >>>>>>>> ger...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the >>>>>>>>> GTGO 8 port card. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco >>>>>>>>> batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards >>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>> PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are slight differences between these parts. For example, the >>>>>>>>> SMXA uplink card has different subcards. One is 10G and other is just >>>>>>>>> 1G. >>>>>>>>> Card SMXA subcard UCDC/3 is what you want for 10G. Same for the >>>>>>>>> ETP4830-A1, >>>>>>>>> one of the subcards has ethernet and the other 2 models only have >>>>>>>>> RS232/RS485. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>>>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-O >>>>>>>>>> LT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0. >>>>>>>>>> zODsrR&s=p >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics. LOL! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying >>>>>>>>>>>> Alphion, ZTE. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart < >>>>>>>>>>>> p...@paulstewart.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting …. do they work ok? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … >>>>>>>>>>>>> considerably more than that. I did look at some DWDM stuff from >>>>>>>>>>>>> China and >>>>>>>>>>>>> it was total junk in my opinion - some people like it .. not my >>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm importing direct from China. 16Port OLT with Class Optics >>>>>>>>>>>>> and Power Supply for $3200. ONT's for $25. PLC's from $2-10 >>>>>>>>>>>>> depending on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the split. Check Alibaba. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, George Skorup < >>>>>>>>>>>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup. My plan is to start 32:1 and knock it down to 16:1 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> throw in another OLT if needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/2017 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google did 32x1. Common at the time of their initial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployment was 64x1. The company I just got off the ground did >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16x1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 11:47 AM, "Sterling Jacobson" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sterl...@avative.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE gets to be a headache with power costs and heat control >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in cabinets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Low oversub GPON is plenty good for now and probably well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that is what Google did, maybe 8:1 max split? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The temptation with GPON is to stretch it to the limits, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which might cause some re-splicing down the road if you want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super high FDX. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE doesn’t have that problem even with equipment a decade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old I can still supply the same SFP+ switch with 180Gbps each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I want to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry that much on the backhaul. Equipment is super cheap, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essentially backwards compatible with GPON if your neighborhood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runs are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short like mine. But again, lots of power is required. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McCown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:08 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calix has NG PON2 which does 10 Gbps per wavelength and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple wavelengths all overlaid on GPON so nothing in the OSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change. All the splitters etc still work. That will give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PON 312.5 Mbps symmetrical all at the same time. So >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oversubscribing 3:1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you could sell 1G symmetrical to everyone and probably not run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headroom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Carlos Alcantar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to add to this post with the new PON technologies being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released this year giving everyone 1G FDX is going to be a non >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Alcantar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 <%28415%29%20376-3314> / >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car...@race.com / http://www.race.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:44:29 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really worried about POTS and RF. Everyone is using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cell phones and watching Netflix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The AE deployment is a total waste of equipment and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources for the utilization we're seeing. I have to go there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and turn up another switch. The 1Gbps feed is averaging less >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 100Mbps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every night. The network owner was convinced that everyone had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have 1G >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FDX. They just don't realize how much electronics and power is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1k ports. There's less than 100 customers so far, so please, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of god, lets fix this now! We'll see what happens. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway.. this project we're looking to do on our own is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood of rich bitches. We already have PMP450 there and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. They "want more speed" and if they're willing to put up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some cash for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, then we'll build it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2017 9:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alphion does, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2017 9:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of costs are you talking? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it talk to ONTs? ONTs with POTS ports? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sterling is AE, I know his costs are pretty low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup Sent: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:39 PM To: af@afmug.com ; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're looking to do another "fiberhood" with GPON instead of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AE this time around. I remember Chuck Hogg mentioned Alphion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployed the AOLT-4200? Looks like a good solution. Or what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else have you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used for small deployments? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>
