Can you imagine a compartment full of laptops of passengers being left behind 
like luggage always does? The shear thought of it makes me cringe. “im sorry 
sir your laptop was sent to LAX instead of IND, we’ll deliver it to your house 
in 3-5 business days”

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

 

Yeah I thought I'd read somewhere that they had intelligence about laptop 
batteries with explosives packed inside.  Not an actual device on a plane, but 
someone building it.

 

I'm not sure if it's worth all the fuss.  I feel like someone is always going 
to find a way. 

 

 

------ Original Message ------

From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>

To: "af" <af@afmug.com>

Sent: 4/25/2017 12:15:02 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

 

        That makes sense to me... a laptop battery seems like a pretty obvious, 
and simple place to hide explosives.

         

        On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        I am guessing it is a volumetric thing.  Laptop batts are big enough to 
do some damage if they really are an explosive.  Hard to tell the difference 
with an X ray machine if you do it right.  

         

        Your cell phone likely has a similar or greater amount of processing 
power and communications ability.  It has to be volumetric based.  

         

        Are they blocking kindle/ipad/fire type devices?

         

        From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

        Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:01 AM

        To: af 

        Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

         

        We've been remarkably politics free, and I want to keep it that way.  I 
know the answer to what I'm about to ask could devolve toward that direction.  
I'd prefer we don't go down that path.

         

        What I'm curious about is this:

         

        The US is implementing various bans on electronics larger than a cell 
phone being carried onboard the aircraft into the cabin.  Today it's limited to 
a few countries, but it sounds like it's going to get expanded greatly.  Note 
that this doesn't mean you can't take say a laptop with you, but instead that 
it has to be checked so it's in the luggage hold instead of accessible to you 
through the flight.

         

        So the question I have is what threat this is supposed to eliminate?  
The obvious concern is some sort of explosive making it's way into the 
passenger cabin, but a wireless trigger for an explosive device is so simple to 
rig nowadays that I don't think the physical separation of a potential 
terrorist from their explosive is going to make a bit of difference. 

         

        I can think of several other potential threats, but with the way that 
they're implementing this ban, I sure can't see how any of them are affected.   
Especially since you can apparently carry your larger electronics all of the 
way to the gate, then have them gate check them to be returned to you airside 
at your destination.

         

        Does anyone have any ideas what threat they might be trying to 
eliminate?   Personally, I'm far more concerned about the risk of a lithium 
battery fire in the cargo hold....

         

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