If a customer wants a site bad enough they will pay for the labor and materials/engineering and work to reinforce a hard-to-get-to tower.
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > at 105% he's now got to reinforce a "hard to get to" tower. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 6/2/2017 2:20:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost > > How is that a mistake, if the customer/tower tenant equipment has you at > 100% wind loading, charge an appropriately high rental rate to go with it? > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:53 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> Yes, they will do loading for you for free. I made the mistake of >> building a tower on a hard to get to mountain top that was at about 85% >> from the get go. It was not up for more than a few months and one of the >> airline wifi companies wanted to put base station antennas on it and we >> were at 105% immediately. So make sure you think about how much loading >> headroom you need. >> >> *From:* Lewis Bergman >> *Sent:* Friday, June 2, 2017 8:47 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost >> >> I assume you gave them antenna specs so they could give you an accurate >> quote for a tower. They do a really great job. Sabre towers go together >> better than most I think. I think I have one of those in my yard right now. >> It is likely a bit heavier than that. If I remember I have a two carrier >> 195 foot SS and a two carrier 150 foot monopole over there. I tend to buy >> surplus towers from Sabre when someone backs out. >> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:47 AM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I posed the question with WISP equipment in mind. Not really interested >>> in leasing space to cellco or anyone else for that matter. I was thinking >>> fully loaded 5ghz & 3.65ghz clusters. Maybe one or two 2ft. microwave >>> dishes. A fairly light load. The idea was to try and keep it under 200ft so >>> we could save $ on not lighting the tower. >>> >>> FYI, I just received a quote on a 195ft Sabre self-supporting tower. It >>> came in at $23k. A 100ft Sabre came in at $11k >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The biggest issue with the question is there is no loading requirement. >>>> Height is one of the smaller factors in determining tower cost. Load is the >>>> biggest factor. I can build a $400,000 200 foot tower I can build a house >>>> on top of or a $18,500 200 foot tower I can put 3 SQFT on. I am sure >>>> everyone realize that but talking about SS or guyed tower cost of a certain >>>> height without talking load is pointless. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> Who said monopole? That's a dirty word. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>> From: "Dev" <d...@logicalwebhost.com> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Sent: 6/1/2017 9:29:58 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost >>>>> >>>>> >Not even close for a monopole, you’ll have more than that in the >>>>> >foundation. I guess lattice freestanding would be cheaper? Maybe >>>>> >different in the middle of a prairie. Of course a guyed Rohn 25 is a >>>>> >really cheap alternative, but it depends on what you need. YMMV >>>>> > >>>>> >>> A few years back during the broadband stimulus days, we priced a >>>>> >>>couple >>>>> >>> tower builds. I'm polling the audience to see if these prices >>>>> still >>>>> >>>hold up. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> - 150ft. Nello self supporter - $39k >>>>> >>>>> >