Yep. The ASR is like a free (well, at least no recurring expense) advertising service. I swear though, the FCC is full of a bunch of people without a clue. You should do a NEPA and NHSA on every filing. Since I have to go through the big PITA I want the ASR to show I did one, even if the result is I don't need one. On the filing I just did for the 300 footer they refuse to give me a FONSI because it was determined clear. Basically, they won't give it to me because the technicality of the rule says they don't have to. I want them because some tenants want to know it was done. It takes the same amount of work to say yes, here is your FONSI as it does to explain to me why you don't have to give me one. The affect is the same because a FONSI says there is no impact an the rule she states as justification says there is no impact so don't check the box.
Bummer. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:09 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah it's amazing sometimes how quick someone finds you. Even if you're > not in the ASR you may be in ULS. If they see you have a licensed backhaul > or NN registration at x feet AGL then they know you have at least x feet of > tower up there. > > You just never know. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 6/2/2017 10:53:59 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost > > Yes, they will do loading for you for free. I made the mistake of > building a tower on a hard to get to mountain top that was at about 85% > from the get go. It was not up for more than a few months and one of the > airline wifi companies wanted to put base station antennas on it and we > were at 105% immediately. So make sure you think about how much loading > headroom you need. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Friday, June 2, 2017 8:47 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost > > I assume you gave them antenna specs so they could give you an accurate > quote for a tower. They do a really great job. Sabre towers go together > better than most I think. I think I have one of those in my yard right now. > It is likely a bit heavier than that. If I remember I have a two carrier > 195 foot SS and a two carrier 150 foot monopole over there. I tend to buy > surplus towers from Sabre when someone backs out. > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:47 AM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I posed the question with WISP equipment in mind. Not really interested in >> leasing space to cellco or anyone else for that matter. I was thinking >> fully loaded 5ghz & 3.65ghz clusters. Maybe one or two 2ft. microwave >> dishes. A fairly light load. The idea was to try and keep it under 200ft so >> we could save $ on not lighting the tower. >> >> FYI, I just received a quote on a 195ft Sabre self-supporting tower. It >> came in at $23k. A 100ft Sabre came in at $11k >> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The biggest issue with the question is there is no loading requirement. >>> Height is one of the smaller factors in determining tower cost. Load is the >>> biggest factor. I can build a $400,000 200 foot tower I can build a house >>> on top of or a $18,500 200 foot tower I can put 3 SQFT on. I am sure >>> everyone realize that but talking about SS or guyed tower cost of a certain >>> height without talking load is pointless. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> Who said monopole? That's a dirty word. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Dev" <d...@logicalwebhost.com> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: 6/1/2017 9:29:58 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP tower and construction cost >>>> >>>> >Not even close for a monopole, you’ll have more than that in the >>>> >foundation. I guess lattice freestanding would be cheaper? Maybe >>>> >different in the middle of a prairie. Of course a guyed Rohn 25 is a >>>> >really cheap alternative, but it depends on what you need. YMMV >>>> > >>>> >>> A few years back during the broadband stimulus days, we priced a >>>> >>>couple >>>> >>> tower builds. I'm polling the audience to see if these prices still >>>> >>>hold up. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - 150ft. Nello self supporter - $39k >>>> >>>>
