With 60 ghz cheap radios and TRILL or SPB, I believe the multi backhaul Mesh coulee be feasible.
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of "p...@believewireless.net<mailto:p...@believewireless.net>" <p...@believewireless.net<mailto:p...@believewireless.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 9:34 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? Years ago there was a product called, from what I remember, ClearMesh that was very cool. It had 3 FSO links built into that automatically tracked and found new mesh sites. It had an ethernet port that could be fed fiber or to a customer. Range was something like 200M and cost ~$7,000 each. Could probably be done a cheaper and more reliable with 24/60GHz. They were hyping it for a couple years and I think it only was on the market for less then a year before they went belly up. Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png] On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: I tried to work with an Orbi setup but the configuration was locked up against it's own config controls.. i.e. broken. It uses _All_ of the top and bottom of the 5 Ghz spectrum and no way to move it's usage around. On 6/24/17 7:41 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Netgear Orbi does that with 4x4 MU-MIMO and multiple radios. Spendy though. - Josh On Jun 24, 2017 9:26 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com<mailto:li...@packetflux.com> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com<mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>> wrote: I agree with you.... I don't know how many times I've had to explain to people why mesh doesn't work well. And have seen numerous startups fail who think their magic routing voodoo will make this work. It is one of those technologies which just intuitively seems like should work, but doesn't for so many different reasons. At some point someone is going to build a multi-radio beamforming system which will actually result in the promise of mesh being fulfilled without actually using what I would call mesh. With beamforming and distinct radios, one could conceptionally build a dynamic point to point backhaul system. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> <mailto:r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>>> wrote: So someone rediscovered mesh? Umm, yea. $7M down the tubes. Rory -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:41 PM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will do this? All kidding aside, and while I am not going to specifically comment on this particular story.... Having said that, you all should take a closer look at what Kent Urwiller has been doing with his WISP, using Mimosa Gear. (Micro Pops w/fat backhauls). His posts with a great amount of details can be found in the Mimosa Group and RF Elements group on Facebook. Here is a small snippet from one of his recent posts.. "... Pretty dang amazing really. We are seeing around 130-150 Mbps on a 40 MHz channel to each client thanks to 2.3 and C5c. .." :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> <tel:(305)%20663-5518> Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> <tel:(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> ----- Original Message ----- > From: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> > To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 4:54:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > "We use FCC-approved antennas that transmit data using 5 GHz signals, > similar to the radios in your wifi router, cell phone, or iPad. These > small antennas are installed at your home by professional installers > or through a simple self-setup process, then wired into your wifi router." > > They advertise 75 Mbps symmetrical service. What radio will do this? > > Good way to turn $7M into nothing. > > > From: Gino A. Villarini > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:30 PM > To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> > Subject: [AFMUG] So Silicon Valley WISP startup gets $7M investment? > > Things that make you go ummï¿1Ž2 > > https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad <https://medium.com/@rquintini/the-lynchpin-of-the-future-8d3f8217a0ad> > > > > > > Gino A. 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