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On Aug 31, 2017 11:22 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

> Not surprising, but sad to hear things haven’t changed one bit with
> ServerPlus in the years since I swore I would never use them again, lol!
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>
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> Supposed to specifically state not to ask for a mac from box. Because it
> was an issue. But, i bet we get an accurate bill. The bills are always
> consistent. The level of irate i have right now excedes my bac, thats
> pretty high at 944 pm
>
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> On Aug 31, 2017 9:31 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> That idea is coming from somewhere and I too would think it comes from the
> DT.  None of my calls say anything about MAC (we NAT our SM).
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> What does your DT say to do?
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:25:38 PM
>
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> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>
> Reviving a dead one, cause i can.
>
> So serverplus, no matter how many times you ask them to stop, still asks
> customers for the mac off their router, even though 95 percent of the
> routers on the market list the freaking wireless mac. They cant seem to
> follow simple poe instructions, constantly escalating (and billing) when
> they hook poes up backward.
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> If you have another option, look into it. Because right now, ill get a
> follow up, solely because of this post, as i did from the original post im
> replying to.
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> I dont mind our own mopes being mopes. I dont even ming paid mopes being
> mopes. What i dont like is mopes, billing us for mopery, and escalating
> response to being mopes when called out in public only. Promising to
> deescalate the mopery, and continuing to be mopes and billing for mopery.
>
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> At this point, direct dialing saudi arabia is a better option. At least
> when amrut answers the phone, our customers expectations drop to the level
> of outsource. And amrut will actually be consistent.
>
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> On Jul 12, 2017 7:10 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> I'm not Direct TV and don't want to be compared to them.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
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> On Jul 11, 2017 10:43 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>
> I am happy what we pay with the average hold times averaging 1-2 minutes.
> Our residential subs don't need hold times any shorter than that for after
> hours support. Compared to our other WISP's, we're the only one that offers
> 24/7 support anyway so we're already ahead of the competition there.
>
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> I know when I call DirecTV or Verizon, Centurylink, I almost always wait
> at least 3-5 minutes before I get a rep. Not always but usually.
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> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
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> I would pay 30% more from my current rates to reduce it to sub 30 seconds.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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> I am in the camp of “screw em”, let them hold or else they can call us in
> the morning.
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> I would probably feel different if you were the first point of contact for
> all calls.
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> But we take our calls directly during most waking & working hours.
>
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>
> *From:* Layne Sisk
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:30 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>
>
>
> So Steve, I am not sure I fully understand the questions you are posing
> here, but I believe it is a simple integration issue that we can resolve
> easily.   Since you have been live with us less than 2 weeks I am sure it
> is simply a setting that can be adjusted.  I will email you off-list so we
> can set up a call to address the concerns.
>
>
>
> To address the comments mentioned by some others in the thread:
>
>
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>    1. We do not route calls overseas unless it has been authorized by the
>    ISP.  The exception mentioned on the list here is that if and ISP has a
>    complete outage and has 50-100 calls drop into queue before the outage is
>    identified we may use the overseas agents to simply pick up the call and
>    confirm to the customer there is an outage.  Once the outage is identified
>    we put a message up on the phone system to stop the influx of calls.
>    Jeremy if that was a deal breaker for you we would certainly have looked
>    for an alternative, sorry that created a problem.  For us it is a balance
>    to make sure that one ISPs outage does not create long hold times for all
>    other clients.
>
>
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>    1. Our average hold time is typically between 1 and 2 minutes.  For
>    example today it is 1:33.  Month to date it is approx. 1:28.  It is
>    certainly possible to shorten that time, but not while maintaining our
>    standard pricing structure.  It is a balance between cost and service, much
>    in the same way that a WISP can usually provide more bandwidth but the
>    balance between cost and speed has to be considered.
>
>
>
>    1. We definitely do not have a mandatory hold time, only an average
>    which we are always working to decrease, most customers calls are answered
>    within seconds.
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> I would pose a question to the group, would you be willing to pay say 30%
> more for the service, if the hold times dropped by 30 seconds?  Most people
> I have spoken with have said no, but it was admittedly a small sample
> size.  We have considered a scaled pricing model with a hold time SLA of  <
> 3 min, < 2 min, < 1 min.   What are your thoughts?
>
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> Layne Sisk
>
> ServerPlus
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> 801.426.8283, ext 102
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 9:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>
>
>
> I also meant offlist, not OT
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> On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email ticket formatting is night and
> day awful, why bother with an api if you cant actually tell what the heck
> is happening. ... and the  api generated ticket cant be reassigned for the
> customer, though i believe thats a powercode issue... and given the "new"
> powercode, i dont see that getting fixed....simon... simon, where are you?
>
>
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> On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Im not sure how they pay, but it looks alot like when we used to comission
> new sales, a new account for each call based on who answered the phone....
> if thats tje case, comission calls, then why bother
>
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> Ive seen multiple existing tickets restarted... bad juju on that.
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> Anybody know if they actually look at existing tickets?
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> Closing and resolving unresolved issues is bad business for me too.
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> Im thinking its just a matter of getiing on the same page, but if others
> have had similar issues and found workarounds ... or walked away, please
> let me know.
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> Serverplus was not my first choice for an outsourced it, so i may be jaded.
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> On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not impressed, a short time in, by any means. Serverplus guys, no offense,
> i need info to make this work outside a retention response. I know luthman
> uses them, but anyone else with powercode, please OT me so i can find out
> whats broke on our side before i have the boss talk.
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> Darin Steffl
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