youre not going to have them powercycle or verify things are plugged in
correctly? that's ALOT of truck rolls

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Exactly... I just signed up with SP and my decision tree is going to be
> extremely simple and straight forward... so easy even a cave man can do it.
>
> Is your router on?   Are you connected to your router?  Can you ping your
> router?  Can you ping our modem?  Can I ping our modem?  Do you get proper
> speeds when plugged into our modem?
>
> ESCALATE.   What else is there to troubleshoot locally?  Unless your
> network is @#$@#.
>
> This entire process should take sub 5 minutes to complete.
>
> END RESULT:
> Your computer is borked.
> Your router is borked.
> Our connection to you is borked -- dispatch.
>
> On 9/1/17 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> I have good luck with ServerPlus.  Part of the quality you get from them
>> depends on the quality of the decision tree you give them.
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>
>> Not surprising, but sad to hear things haven’t changed one bit with
>> ServerPlus in the years since I swore I would never use them again, lol!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:45 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>
>>
>> Supposed to specifically state not to ask for a mac from box. Because it
>> was an issue. But, i bet we get an accurate bill. The bills are always
>> consistent. The level of irate i have right now excedes my bac, thats
>> pretty high at 944 pm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2017 9:31 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     That idea is coming from somewhere and I too would think it comes
>>     from the DT.  None of my calls say anything about MAC (we NAT our SM).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Josh Luthman
>>     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>     1100 Wayne St
>>     Suite 1337
>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>         What does your DT say to do?
>>
>>
>>
>>         -----
>>         Mike Hammett
>>         Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>         <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>         Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>         <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.
>> com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>         The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>         <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>>         <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>>
>>         *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>         *To: *af@afmug.com
>>         *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:25:38 PM
>>
>>
>>         *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT
>>
>>         Reviving a dead one, cause i can.
>>
>>         So serverplus, no matter how many times you ask them to stop,
>>         still asks customers for the mac off their router, even though
>>         95 percent of the routers on the market list the freaking
>>         wireless mac. They cant seem to follow simple poe instructions,
>>         constantly escalating (and billing) when they hook poes up
>> backward.
>>
>>
>>
>>         If you have another option, look into it. Because right now, ill
>>         get a follow up, solely because of this post, as i did from the
>>         original post im replying to.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         I dont mind our own mopes being mopes. I dont even ming paid
>>         mopes being mopes. What i dont like is mopes, billing us for
>>         mopery, and escalating response to being mopes when called out
>>         in public only. Promising to deescalate the mopery, and
>>         continuing to be mopes and billing for mopery.
>>
>>
>>
>>         At this point, direct dialing saudi arabia is a better option.
>>         At least when amrut answers the phone, our customers
>>         expectations drop to the level of outsource. And amrut will
>>         actually be consistent.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Jul 12, 2017 7:10 AM, "Josh Luthman"
>>         <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>             I'm not Direct TV and don't want to be compared to them.
>>
>>             Josh Luthman
>>             Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>             Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>             1100 Wayne St
>>             Suite 1337
>>             Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>             On Jul 11, 2017 10:43 PM, "Darin Steffl"
>>             <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>                 I am happy what we pay with the average hold times
>>                 averaging 1-2 minutes. Our residential subs don't need
>>                 hold times any shorter than that for after hours
>>                 support. Compared to our other WISP's, we're the only
>>                 one that offers 24/7 support anyway so we're already
>>                 ahead of the competition there.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 I know when I call DirecTV or Verizon, Centurylink, I
>>                 almost always wait at least 3-5 minutes before I get a
>>                 rep. Not always but usually.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Josh Luthman
>>                 <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>                     I would pay 30% more from my current rates to reduce
>>                     it to sub 30 seconds.
>>
>>                     Josh Luthman
>>                     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
>>                     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
>>                     1100 Wayne St
>>                     Suite 1337
>>                     Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PM, "Chuck McCown"
>>                     <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>                         I am in the camp of “screw em”, let them hold or
>>                         else they can call us in the morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I would probably feel different if you were the
>>                         first point of contact for all calls.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         But we take our calls directly during most
>>                         waking & working hours.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         *From:*Layne Sisk
>>
>>                         *Sent:*Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:30 PM
>>
>>                         *To:*af@afmug.com
>>
>>                         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users,
>> OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                         So Steve, I am not sure I fully understand the
>>                         questions you are posing here, but I believe it
>>                         is a simple integration issue that we can
>>                         resolve easily.   Since you have been live with
>>                         us less than 2 weeks I am sure it is simply a
>>                         setting that can be adjusted.  I will email you
>>                         off-list so we can set up a call to address the
>>                         concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         To address the comments mentioned by some others
>>                         in the thread:
>>
>>
>>
>>                          1. We do not route calls overseas unless it has
>>                             been authorized by the ISP.  The exception
>>                             mentioned on the list here is that if and
>>                             ISP has a complete outage and has 50-100
>>                             calls drop into queue before the outage is
>>                             identified we may use the overseas agents to
>>                             simply pick up the call and confirm to the
>>                             customer there is an outage.  Once the
>>                             outage is identified we put a message up on
>>                             the phone system to stop the influx of
>>                             calls.  Jeremy if that was a deal breaker
>>                             for you we would certainly have looked for
>>                             an alternative, sorry that created a
>>                             problem.  For us it is a balance to make
>>                             sure that one ISPs outage does not create
>>                             long hold times for all other clients.
>>
>>
>>
>>                          2. Our average hold time is typically between 1
>>                             and 2 minutes.  For example today it is
>>                             1:33.  Month to date it is approx. 1:28.  It
>>                             is certainly possible to shorten that time,
>>                             but not while maintaining our standard
>>                             pricing structure.  It is a balance between
>>                             cost and service, much in the same way that
>>                             a WISP can usually provide more bandwidth
>>                             but the balance between cost and speed has
>>                             to be considered.
>>
>>
>>
>>                          3. We definitely do not have a mandatory hold
>>                             time, only an average which we are always
>>                             working to decrease, most customers calls
>>                             are answered within seconds.
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I would pose a question to the group, would you
>>                         be willing to pay say 30% more for the service,
>>                         if the hold times dropped by 30 seconds?  Most
>>                         people I have spoken with have said no, but it
>>                         was admittedly a small sample size.  We have
>>                         considered a scaled pricing model with a hold
>>                         time SLA of  < 3 min, < 2 min, < 1 min.   What
>>                         are your thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>                         Layne Sisk
>>
>>                         ServerPlus
>>
>>                         801.426.8283, ext 102
>>                         <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102>
>>
>>                         New logo xl <http://www.serverplus.com/>
>>
>>                         http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png
>>
>>                         http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png
>>                         <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>
>>
>>                         http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png
>>                         <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>
>>
>>                         Utah 100       fast50-01Inc 5000
>>
>>
>>
>>                         *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>                         Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>                         *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 9:49 PM
>>                         *To:* af@afmug.com
>>                         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode
>>
>>                         users, OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I also meant offlist, not OT
>>
>>
>>
>>                         On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones"
>>                         <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>                             Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email
>>                             ticket formatting is night and day awful,
>>                             why bother with an api if you cant actually
>>                             tell what the heck is happening. ... and
>>                             the  api generated ticket cant be reassigned
>>                             for the customer, though i believe thats a
>>                             powercode issue... and given the "new"
>>                             powercode, i dont see that getting
>>                             fixed....simon... simon, where are you?
>>
>>
>>
>>                             On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones"
>>                             <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>                                 Im not sure how they pay, but it looks
>>                                 alot like when we used to comission new
>>                                 sales, a new account for each call based
>>                                 on who answered the phone.... if thats
>>                                 tje case, comission calls, then why bother
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Ive seen multiple existing tickets
>>                                 restarted... bad juju on that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Anybody know if they actually look at
>>                                 existing tickets?
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Closing and resolving unresolved issues
>>                                 is bad business for me too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Im thinking its just a matter of getiing
>>                                 on the same page, but if others have had
>>                                 similar issues and found workarounds ...
>>                                 or walked away, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 Serverplus was not my first choice for
>>                                 an outsourced it, so i may be jaded.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones"
>>                                 <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>                                     Not impressed, a short time in, by
>>                                     any means. Serverplus guys, no
>>                                     offense, i need info to make this
>>                                     work outside a retention response. I
>>                                     know luthman uses them, but anyone
>>                                     else with powercode, please OT me so
>>                                     i can find out whats broke on our
>>                                     side before i have the boss talk.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 --
>>
>>                 Darin Steffl
>>
>>                 Minnesota WiFi
>>
>>                 www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>
>>                 507-634-WiFi
>>
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