Exactly... I just signed up with SP and my decision tree is going to be extremely simple and straight forward... so easy even a cave man can do it.

Is your router on? Are you connected to your router? Can you ping your router? Can you ping our modem? Can I ping our modem? Do you get proper speeds when plugged into our modem?

ESCALATE. What else is there to troubleshoot locally? Unless your network is @#$@#.

This entire process should take sub 5 minutes to complete.

END RESULT:
Your computer is borked.
Your router is borked.
Our connection to you is borked -- dispatch.

On 9/1/17 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I have good luck with ServerPlus.  Part of the quality you get from them
depends on the quality of the decision tree you give them.

*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT


Not surprising, but sad to hear things haven’t changed one bit with
ServerPlus in the years since I swore I would never use them again, lol!



*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:45 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT



Supposed to specifically state not to ask for a mac from box. Because it
was an issue. But, i bet we get an accurate bill. The bills are always
consistent. The level of irate i have right now excedes my bac, thats
pretty high at 944 pm



On Aug 31, 2017 9:31 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

    That idea is coming from somewhere and I too would think it comes
    from the DT.  None of my calls say anything about MAC (we NAT our SM).




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    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373



    On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

        What does your DT say to do?



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        *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
        *To: *af@afmug.com
        *Sent: *Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:25:38 PM


        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT

        Reviving a dead one, cause i can.

        So serverplus, no matter how many times you ask them to stop,
        still asks customers for the mac off their router, even though
        95 percent of the routers on the market list the freaking
        wireless mac. They cant seem to follow simple poe instructions,
        constantly escalating (and billing) when they hook poes up backward.



        If you have another option, look into it. Because right now, ill
        get a follow up, solely because of this post, as i did from the
        original post im replying to.





        I dont mind our own mopes being mopes. I dont even ming paid
        mopes being mopes. What i dont like is mopes, billing us for
        mopery, and escalating response to being mopes when called out
        in public only. Promising to deescalate the mopery, and
        continuing to be mopes and billing for mopery.



        At this point, direct dialing saudi arabia is a better option.
        At least when amrut answers the phone, our customers
        expectations drop to the level of outsource. And amrut will
        actually be consistent.



        On Jul 12, 2017 7:10 AM, "Josh Luthman"
        <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

            I'm not Direct TV and don't want to be compared to them.

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
            Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373



            On Jul 11, 2017 10:43 PM, "Darin Steffl"
            <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

                I am happy what we pay with the average hold times
                averaging 1-2 minutes. Our residential subs don't need
                hold times any shorter than that for after hours
                support. Compared to our other WISP's, we're the only
                one that offers 24/7 support anyway so we're already
                ahead of the competition there.



                I know when I call DirecTV or Verizon, Centurylink, I
                almost always wait at least 3-5 minutes before I get a
                rep. Not always but usually.



                On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Josh Luthman
                <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

                    I would pay 30% more from my current rates to reduce
                    it to sub 30 seconds.

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373



                    On Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PM, "Chuck McCown"
                    <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                        I am in the camp of “screw em”, let them hold or
                        else they can call us in the morning.



                        I would probably feel different if you were the
                        first point of contact for all calls.



                        But we take our calls directly during most
                        waking & working hours.



                        *From:*Layne Sisk

                        *Sent:*Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:30 PM

                        *To:*af@afmug.com

                        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode users, OT



                        So Steve, I am not sure I fully understand the
                        questions you are posing here, but I believe it
                        is a simple integration issue that we can
                        resolve easily.   Since you have been live with
                        us less than 2 weeks I am sure it is simply a
                        setting that can be adjusted.  I will email you
                        off-list so we can set up a call to address the
                        concerns.



                        To address the comments mentioned by some others
                        in the thread:



                         1. We do not route calls overseas unless it has
                            been authorized by the ISP.  The exception
                            mentioned on the list here is that if and
                            ISP has a complete outage and has 50-100
                            calls drop into queue before the outage is
                            identified we may use the overseas agents to
                            simply pick up the call and confirm to the
                            customer there is an outage.  Once the
                            outage is identified we put a message up on
                            the phone system to stop the influx of
                            calls.  Jeremy if that was a deal breaker
                            for you we would certainly have looked for
                            an alternative, sorry that created a
                            problem.  For us it is a balance to make
                            sure that one ISPs outage does not create
                            long hold times for all other clients.



                         2. Our average hold time is typically between 1
                            and 2 minutes.  For example today it is
                            1:33.  Month to date it is approx. 1:28.  It
                            is certainly possible to shorten that time,
                            but not while maintaining our standard
                            pricing structure.  It is a balance between
                            cost and service, much in the same way that
                            a WISP can usually provide more bandwidth
                            but the balance between cost and speed has
                            to be considered.



                         3. We definitely do not have a mandatory hold
                            time, only an average which we are always
                            working to decrease, most customers calls
                            are answered within seconds.



                        I would pose a question to the group, would you
                        be willing to pay say 30% more for the service,
                        if the hold times dropped by 30 seconds?  Most
                        people I have spoken with have said no, but it
                        was admittedly a small sample size.  We have
                        considered a scaled pricing model with a hold
                        time SLA of  < 3 min, < 2 min, < 1 min.   What
                        are your thoughts?



                        Layne Sisk

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                        *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
                        Behalf Of *Steve Jones
                        *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2017 9:49 PM
                        *To:* af@afmug.com
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus/powercode
                        users, OT



                        I also meant offlist, not OT



                        On Jul 10, 2017 10:31 PM, "Steve Jones"
                        <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                            Oh yeah, the powercode ticket vs the email
                            ticket formatting is night and day awful,
                            why bother with an api if you cant actually
                            tell what the heck is happening. ... and
                            the  api generated ticket cant be reassigned
                            for the customer, though i believe thats a
                            powercode issue... and given the "new"
                            powercode, i dont see that getting
                            fixed....simon... simon, where are you?



                            On Jul 10, 2017 10:27 PM, "Steve Jones"
                            <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                                Im not sure how they pay, but it looks
                                alot like when we used to comission new
                                sales, a new account for each call based
                                on who answered the phone.... if thats
                                tje case, comission calls, then why bother



                                Ive seen multiple existing tickets
                                restarted... bad juju on that.





                                Anybody know if they actually look at
                                existing tickets?



                                Closing and resolving unresolved issues
                                is bad business for me too.





                                Im thinking its just a matter of getiing
                                on the same page, but if others have had
                                similar issues and found workarounds ...
                                or walked away, please let me know.



                                Serverplus was not my first choice for
                                an outsourced it, so i may be jaded.



                                On Jul 10, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steve Jones"
                                <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                                    Not impressed, a short time in, by
                                    any means. Serverplus guys, no
                                    offense, i need info to make this
                                    work outside a retention response. I
                                    know luthman uses them, but anyone
                                    else with powercode, please OT me so
                                    i can find out whats broke on our
                                    side before i have the boss talk.









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