No doubt.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 6:32:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting Trampling in panic On Oct 2, 2017 6:06 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: No doubt many of those injuries were caused by the same projectile hitting multiple people. Going through multiple arms, bouncing off the ground, etc. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 5:33:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting Based on the number of people shot (~~ 573 last report I heard), if there were only "6 or 7" of them, then they weren't mere magazines, but catalogs. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/2/2017 12:30 PM, George Skorup wrote: <blockquote> s/clip/magazine Sorry Bill, had to. On 10/2/2017 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: <blockquote> Based on what I heard (so far), it had to take many minutes; maybe 15 or 20 or so. From the sound, you could hear what sounded like automatic weapon fire going and going until the clip was empty (and it sounded like a big clip). Then there was a brief pause (people on the scene described it as "30 seconds"), then another round with another clip. There were at least 6 or 7 clips. There are probably eye witness errors in the above description, but if it's even close to correct, it is pretty scary. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/2/2017 10:08 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: <blockquote> How long did this event last? >From the time he started shooting how long until police found him and he >killed himself ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2017 11:59 AM I think the best thing to do is wait to see if the authorities can find a motive. I’ve got family up there in Law Enforcement but haven’t heard from them yet. Rory From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 2, 2017 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting +1, let's please not get into a political fight. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: 10/2/2017 12:42:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting <blockquote> While I won't get into gun politics I will say there are a bunch of extremely fervent views on the subject. All dearly felt with logical reasons behind them. I am not sure the opposing sides think the opposition's reasons are valid. I think we can agree, without political discussions, that crazy is crazy. And while I hate to see this like everyone else, I don't think most freedom loving people would be willing to do what it takes to stop all potentially crazy people from doing such things. I would hope to head off any political debates on the list. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM Jeremy < jeremysmi...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> I had never seen these bump stop devices. It is hard to believe that they are legal, and do not require a machine gun license. I expect that will not last. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > wrote: Well crazy is crazy no matter what. I don't care what allegiance they claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person. People died for no good reason. As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to guns has got to change. Fuck the politics. On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" < cc...@wispmon.com > wrote: Well that is some relief. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: <blockquote> FBI says no... On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: <blockquote> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not verified yet, but if true is pretty scary. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto: lewis.berg...@gmail.com >> wrote: I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room or whatever. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto: thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >> wrote: 10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel luggage transport On Oct 2, 2017 10:35 AM, "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto: losguyswirel...@gmail.com >> wrote: Bet you surveillance footage is getting analyzed. I am aware guns can be disassembled to fit in suitcase or travel bags...but 10 guns if report is accurate...wow. On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "Robert" < i...@avantwireless.com <mailto: i...@avantwireless.com >> wrote: Expect metal detectors going in immediately... On 10/2/17 7:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: I won't be surprised if there were baggage checks at the casino. 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Robert wrote: A best friend and his brother were there and had bullets wizzing by him and hitting the ground around him and had people falling around him. On 10/2/17 4:12 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I have a co-worker who is there on a vacation for his birthday until Wednesday. Haven't heard from him yet. On Oct 2, 2017 5:51 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com <mailto: li...@packetflux.com > <mailto: li...@packetflux.com <mailto: li...@packetflux.com >> <mailto: li...@packetflux.com <mailto: li...@packetflux.com > <mailto: li...@packetflux.com <mailto: li...@packetflux.com >>>> wrote: I'm not really even sure what to say. This keeps getting worse and worse as more details come in. A different festival on a different night and I could have been among the crowd. 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