several places, if you know the owners/operators of major content source ISPs (dedicated hosting/VPS/virtual server/colocation/rack & cage colo) that have extremely heavy outbound:inbound traffic ratios, like 9:1 ratio or more.
adding a new customer to the same ASN, consisting of a downstream WISP that consists of mostly singlehomed eyeballs, with a theoretical 5 or 6 Gbps evening peak traffic in a sinewave pattern, only has the positive effect of very slightly evening out the upstream hosting company's traffic ratios with its peers and transit sources. It's almost "free" bandwidth. Some hosting companies have even sought out such downstream ISPs with the goal of bringing their inbound:outbound ratios into better parity for peering with larger regional/national ISPs. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Where is transit zero? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > I know of one case where it is zero now. > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:24 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > It won't hit zero, the metric will just shift to gigabit. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:18:15 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > The trend is toward zero. Just port charges. > > Just like long distance did 10 years ago. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > You may be paying in the lowest rate bracket for the amount of bandwidth. > I've never heard anything lower unless you were in the 100G+ bracket. > > On Oct 5, 2017 5:21 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > I pay rates lower than 5 cents per meg... > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:59 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that > actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the > 100-300 meg range. > > You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA unless you are > buying a 10gig circuit in a datacenter or other very competitive market. > > Long term, arranging transport to a data center is the right direction, > but it usually isn't cost effective until you are over 1Gig of traffic. > Unless you happen to be close to stimulus built fiber you can connect to > really cheap. > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Al Rachide <alrach...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, >> just to the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding >> throughout three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number of post where >> others are claiming rates as low as $0.20 per mbit/sec, we can't get >> anything here for less than $2.20 per mbit/sec, PLUS a fixed loop fee of >> $750.00 per month per pop. So, how can we find a cheaper backhaul solution >> here in the boonies of NC? We have CenturyLink and Spectrum available for >> local connection, but would like to know about other options for the actual >> internet / backhaul connection. PS: We attended our first WISPA convention >> in Memphis and it will not be the last! >> >> Al Rachide >> Eastern Caroline Broadband, LLC >> Pink Hill, NC 28572 >> > > > > > >
