It's really region/colo/datacenter and operator specific. When you know that somebody has a cage with 500 1U servers (or blades) in racks hosting adult web content, you know that their traffic ratios are like 95:5 outbound:inbound...
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I've gotten them to offer me sub $0.20 transit (before $0.20 was cool), > but never free. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:25:43 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! > > several places, if you know the owners/operators of major content source > ISPs (dedicated hosting/VPS/virtual server/colocation/rack & cage colo) > that have extremely heavy outbound:inbound traffic ratios, like 9:1 ratio > or more. > > adding a new customer to the same ASN, consisting of a downstream WISP > that consists of mostly singlehomed eyeballs, with a theoretical 5 or 6 > Gbps evening peak traffic in a sinewave pattern, only has the positive > effect of very slightly evening out the upstream hosting company's traffic > ratios with its peers and transit sources. It's almost "free" bandwidth. > > Some hosting companies have even sought out such downstream ISPs with the > goal of bringing their inbound:outbound ratios into better parity for > peering with larger regional/national ISPs. > > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Where is transit zero? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! >> >> I know of one case where it is zero now. >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:24 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! >> >> It won't hit zero, the metric will just shift to gigabit. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:18:15 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! >> >> The trend is toward zero. Just port charges. >> >> Just like long distance did 10 years ago. >> >> *From:* Josh Reynolds >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! >> >> You may be paying in the lowest rate bracket for the amount of bandwidth. >> I've never heard anything lower unless you were in the 100G+ bracket. >> >> On Oct 5, 2017 5:21 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> I pay rates lower than 5 cents per meg... >> >> *From:* Chris Fabien >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:59 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution! >> >> For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that >> actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the >> 100-300 meg range. >> >> You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA unless you are >> buying a 10gig circuit in a datacenter or other very competitive market. >> >> Long term, arranging transport to a data center is the right direction, >> but it usually isn't cost effective until you are over 1Gig of traffic. >> Unless you happen to be close to stimulus built fiber you can connect to >> really cheap. >> >> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Al Rachide <alrach...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, >>> just to the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding >>> throughout three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number of post where >>> others are claiming rates as low as $0.20 per mbit/sec, we can't get >>> anything here for less than $2.20 per mbit/sec, PLUS a fixed loop fee of >>> $750.00 per month per pop. So, how can we find a cheaper backhaul solution >>> here in the boonies of NC? We have CenturyLink and Spectrum available for >>> local connection, but would like to know about other options for the actual >>> internet / backhaul connection. PS: We attended our first WISPA convention >>> in Memphis and it will not be the last! >>> >>> Al Rachide >>> Eastern Caroline Broadband, LLC >>> Pink Hill, NC 28572 >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
