DIA and bandwidth usage cost is going to zero.  
But the port charge to access that DIA is not really going down much.  
From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:28 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

I charge you for the Coke ?  and the Fries separate from the Burger ? 
or do you want to do a Combo Package ? 

Most people often forget that for a Tier 1 provider, there is NO COST of IP 
TRANSIT..
the cost is all but the cost of infrastructure, maintenance  and operations...

So, weather it is translated into a 'pay for DIA' or pay for 'Port'  it is all 
a matter of presentation.

Is the internet access going to go to Zero Cost ?   NO it is not (ever !)

Is the 'premium' charge for internet access going to become negligible ?   Yes 
it is ... 


My 2 cents worth ...

BTW, we will be more than happy to sell IP Transit out of our POP's for less 
than the rate we pay for to our UPstreams !

(Dallas / Miami/ Atlanta, Ashburn)

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 10:41:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

  Where you own the fiber.  I am talking about zero for DIA.  Port charges 
only. 

  From: Mike Hammett
  Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:32 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

  Where is transit zero?




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






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  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:30:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


  I know of one case where it is zero now. 

  From: Mike Hammett
  Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:24 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

  It won't hit zero, the metric will just shift to gigabit.




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






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  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 6:18:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!


  The trend is toward zero.  Just port charges. 

  Just like long distance did 10 years ago. 

  From: Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 5:16 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

  You may be paying in the lowest rate bracket for the amount of bandwidth. 
I've never heard anything lower unless you were in the 100G+ bracket.

  On Oct 5, 2017 5:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

    I pay rates lower than 5 cents per meg...

    From: Chris Fabien
    Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:59 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New WISP in NC needs backhaul solution!

    For a new startup, the pricing you listed at 2.2/meg plus $750, that 
actually sounds pretty reasonable to get you into a fiber circuit in the 
100-300 meg range.  

    You're not going to be getting 20 cents per meg for DIA unless you are 
buying a 10gig circuit in a datacenter or other very competitive market.

    Long term, arranging transport to a data center is the right direction, but 
it usually isn't cost effective until you are over 1Gig of traffic. Unless you 
happen to be close to stimulus built fiber you can connect to really cheap.

    On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Al Rachide <[email protected]> wrote:

      We are getting ready to go live from a small connection in our office, 
just to the local community, using a omni antenna. We will be expanding 
throughout three counties in eastern NC. Having read a number of post where 
others are claiming rates as low as $0.20 per mbit/sec, we can't get anything 
here for less than $2.20 per mbit/sec, PLUS a fixed loop fee of $750.00 per 
month per pop. So, how can we find a cheaper backhaul solution here in the 
boonies of NC? We have CenturyLink and Spectrum available for local connection, 
but would like to know about other options for the actual internet / backhaul 
connection. PS: We attended our first WISPA convention in Memphis and it will 
not be the last! 


      Al Rachide
      Eastern Caroline Broadband, LLC
      Pink Hill, NC 28572






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