Please don't become a Sonar customer just to demonize them because you don't like their service model.
Seriously. That'd be a super shitty thing to do. On Oct 18, 2017 6:52 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I will be using it shortly as Sonar bought WISPMon. > > All of the major billing\OSS platforms with modern features are also > cloud-based, so there's not really anywhere else to go. > > That's fine for you that it works that way, but many WISPs are increasing > their use of on-premises virtualization. What about your monitoring, DNS, > RADIUS, syslog, Unimus, mail, etc., etc. servers? > > Yes, my reasons do outweigh arbitrary reasons to keep it in a cloud > environment. > > Actually, I've been fairly quiet on this particular issue and will be > increasing my advocacy efforts in this regard to all billing\OSS platforms. > As I said, it's the SFP port of the billing\OSS world. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:08:47 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sonar > > I'm in agreement with Simon that it's much faster and reliable to host in > the cloud than a server on site. It would cost me many more hours, hand > holding, and worry if I had to host this server in my network. If I went on > vacation and something happened, I'd be stressed. > > With sonar living in the cloud, there's less to worry about as it's hosted > in a much more reliable datacenter than I could afford to build. It's also > managed by sonar's team so if there's an issue, they take care of it. > Stress free for me. > > I see why you might want to host it in house but those reasons do NOT > outweigh all the benefits of letting sonar host it in the cloud for you and > take care of the problems. > > Mike, if you don't like Simon's decision to leave it in the cloud, shut up > and move on. There's no reason for you and Matt Hoppes to keep beating a > dead horse and sound like a broken record. Use something else you're happy > with and let the rest of us grow our business and make more $$ while you > two complain about a product you don't even use. Jeez ha > > > > On Oct 17, 2017 8:31 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> wrote: > >> On 10/17/17 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> Expect repeated harassment until a good reason is presented or you >>> capitulate. >>> >>> It's the SFP of the billing\OSS world. >>> >> >> >> I always welcome my competitors to have external dependencies. When they >> try to hand wave their problems away as vendor or cloud problems it helps >> me gain new customers. >> >> ~Seth >> > >