One county we're in pulled that bullshit. We wanted to put up a 140'.
They said nope, you're not a cell co. And we said neither is SBA that
just built a tower 2 miles away without any permits whatsoever. Or how
about American Tower? Or the tower asset holding companies that the cell
co's own? None of them are cell co's, yet they're allowed, or just put
them up and don't give a shit. We thought about just building it and
telling them to piss off, but figured that was a bad idea without an
army of lawyers. Next county over, we can put up a 1k' without any
permits, engineering.. nothing.
On 12/7/2017 1:12 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
In my completely unqualified opinion, they make these rules so they
can hammer fees out of somebody.
If you go with your hat in your hand and explain politely what you're
doing then maybe they'll help you through the process. They might not
bend any rules for you, but they might refrain from making it harder.
I can think of two towns which adopted the same set of standardized
rules on building towers. One town told aWISP, "These rules aren't
really intended for you, they're really for cell phone towers, just
apply for a building permit and we'll ignore the rest of it." A
different town stuck to the letter of everything and hit the same WISP
with $7000 in engineering fees, and there were very strong reasons for
the WISP to believe that no actual engineering was performed. I won't
name the two towns or the WISP, but this is a true story.
-Adam
------ Original Message ------
From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 12/7/2017 1:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Conditional-use permit for tower
So i inquired about installing a "ham" tower, which is limited to
60ft in the county I reside, damn. They still want their use permit &
fee's, it's a several month process with a open hearing and approval
from the board of supervisors. Also an environmental study??!?
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Philip Rankin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chuck, bureaucrats are not pricks!!!! That's the best part of a
man!!!!!!! They are the excrement that secreats from
bureaucrat's ASSHOLES!!!
Phil
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:46 PM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
One thing about bureaucrats, they love to have all the boxes
checked and all the pages filled out. So rather than kick
against the pricks, I have learned to try to give them more
than they ask for if there is no way around it.
*From:* TJ Trout
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:35 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Conditional-use permit for tower
I just purchased a 7ac price of land for my primary residence
and the site is a great location for a tower site, but the
local government is asking for a 30 page conditional use
permit app with an environmental study and a public comment
period plus approval by the board of supervisors...
After that I have to obtain a building permit obviously.
Any tips on filling out this application so I can receive an
approval?
Three of my competitors have a tower within 1 mile of this
site and none of them have gone through the planning or
conditional use permit nor have they received a building
permit as far as I know. So I don't think they will be asking
me to co locate.
Any advice or tips? I guess this process can take as long as
a year to be completed and I'm not sure what the cost will be
but I'm sure an environmental impact study isn't cheap.
Thanks,
TJ
--
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS 66762
