You put up a 1k' tower? Where? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 4:16:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Conditional-use permit for tower 

One county we're in pulled that bullshit. We wanted to put up a 140'. They said 
nope, you're not a cell co. And we said neither is SBA that just built a tower 
2 miles away without any permits whatsoever. Or how about American Tower? Or 
the tower asset holding companies that the cell co's own? None of them are cell 
co's, yet they're allowed, or just put them up and don't give a shit. We 
thought about just building it and telling them to piss off, but figured that 
was a bad idea without an army of lawyers. Next county over, we can put up a 
1k' without any permits, engineering.. nothing. 


On 12/7/2017 1:12 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



In my completely unqualified opinion, they make these rules so they can hammer 
fees out of somebody. 


If you go with your hat in your hand and explain politely what you're doing 
then maybe they'll help you through the process. They might not bend any rules 
for you, but they might refrain from making it harder. 


I can think of two towns which adopted the same set of standardized rules on 
building towers. One town told aWISP, "These rules aren't really intended for 
you, they're really for cell phone towers, just apply for a building permit and 
we'll ignore the rest of it." A different town stuck to the letter of 
everything and hit the same WISP with $7000 in engineering fees, and there were 
very strong reasons for the WISP to believe that no actual engineering was 
performed. I won't name the two towns or the WISP, but this is a true story. 


-Adam 




------ Original Message ------ 
From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: 12/7/2017 1:39:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Conditional-use permit for tower 



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So i inquired about installing a "ham" tower, which is limited to 60ft in the 
county I reside, damn. They still want their use permit & fee's, it's a several 
month process with a open hearing and approval from the board of supervisors. 
Also an environmental study??!? 


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Philip Rankin < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Chuck, bureaucrats are not pricks!!!! That's the best part of a man!!!!!!! They 
are the excrement that secreats from bureaucrat's ASSHOLES!!! 


Phil 


On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 12:46 PM, < [email protected] > wrote: 

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One thing about bureaucrats, they love to have all the boxes checked and all 
the pages filled out. So rather than kick against the pricks, I have learned to 
try to give them more than they ask for if there is no way around it. 




From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:35 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [AFMUG] Conditional-use permit for tower 




I just purchased a 7ac price of land for my primary residence and the site is a 
great location for a tower site, but the local government is asking for a 30 
page conditional use permit app with an environmental study and a public 
comment period plus approval by the board of supervisors... 

After that I have to obtain a building permit obviously. 

Any tips on filling out this application so I can receive an approval? 

Three of my competitors have a tower within 1 mile of this site and none of 
them have gone through the planning or conditional use permit nor have they 
received a building permit as far as I know. So I don't think they will be 
asking me to co locate. 

Any advice or tips? I guess this process can take as long as a year to be 
completed and I'm not sure what the cost will be but I'm sure an environmental 
impact study isn't cheap. 

Thanks, 

TJ 





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Philip J. Rankin 
Wireless Telecommunications Services 
PO Box 24 
Pittsburg, KS 66762 
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