My provider was able to provide me LAN PHY or WAN PHY, we went with LAN PHY - works fine into a CCR/MX104 chassis - the way I was described it was LAN PHY is a typical 10G hand off... I'm not sure on why you would use WAN PHY unless your forced to because that is all the provider's equipment supports. I believe there is some overhead in WAN PHY, so it can't deliver a full 10g circuit (wikipedia says somewhere around 9.5g).
Joe On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: > Thanks Eric, yes a wave on a carriers DWDM chassis. That takes us back to > my original question. LAN PHY vs WAN phy. Is there any reason to use > WANPHY assuming I am just connecting a couple of MXs in two different data > centers? My thinking is no but I put this out after a couple providers > came back with WANPHY on their quotes. > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If you're describing a wave service provisioned on a carrier's DWDM >> chassis, for 10G, the ethernet handoff on each side will almost certainly >> be 1310nm/LX. You also need to understand whether it's been built using >> LANPHY or WANPHY (eg: is it an OC192 built on a legacy system or is it a >> native 10Gb Ethernet circuit). >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Carl Peterson < >> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: >> >>> This is specifically a wave and not L2 ethernet or MPLS. Also not >>> dark. We lease a lot of metro dark but this is a regional connection and I >>> have no need or budget for a whole strand on this path. >>> >>> I wouldn't mind colored optics, but this is a pretty heavy regional >>> route and I doubt anyone is running passive DWDM on it. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> You should ask your provider, what is being handed to you.. >>>> Terminology means little.... >>>> >>>> Are you purchasing a lit circuit ? or a dark fiber / dark channel ? >>>> >>>> If it is a lit circuit, you can expect / specify the hand-off on either >>>> SMF or MM optics (SMF is more and more common). >>>> If you are getting a Dark Fiber / Dark Channel, then ask them what type >>>> of optics you need. >>>> >>>> I highly doubt that you are being sold a dark fiber / dark channel.. >>>> very likely 10g Lit circuit.. (many carriers use the term Wave to >>>> differentiate between Ethernet / MPLS circuits). >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518> >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:00:54 PM >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 10g wave lan phy vs 10g wan phy >>>> >>>> We are about to sign a contract on a 10G wave and I'm trying to figure >>>> out what the wan phys should be and whats the difference. I'm assuming we >>>> would want lan phys. >>>> Does this make sense and would we just use normal 10G optics on each >>>> end? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carl Peterson >>>> >>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>> >>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl Peterson >>> >>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>> >>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D401%2BE%2BPratt%2BSt,%2BSte%2B2553%2BBaltimore,%2BMD%2B21202%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D401%2BE%2BPratt%2BSt,%2BSte%2B2553%2BBaltimore,%2BMD%2B21202%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> (410) 637-3707 >>> >> >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D401%2BE%2BPratt%2BSt,%2BSte%2B2553%2BBaltimore,%2BMD%2B21202%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=401+E+Pratt+St,+Ste+2553+Baltimore,+MD+21202+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D401%2BE%2BPratt%2BSt,%2BSte%2B2553%2BBaltimore,%2BMD%2B21202%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > (410) 637-3707 >