My provider was able to provide me LAN PHY or WAN PHY, we went with LAN PHY
- works fine into a CCR/MX104 chassis - the way I was described it was LAN
PHY is a typical 10G hand off... I'm not sure on why you would use WAN PHY
unless your forced to because that is all the provider's equipment
supports. I believe there is some overhead in WAN PHY, so it can't deliver
a full 10g circuit (wikipedia says somewhere around 9.5g).


Joe

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Eric, yes a wave on a carriers DWDM chassis.  That takes us back to
> my original question.  LAN PHY vs WAN phy.  Is there any reason to use
> WANPHY assuming I am just connecting a couple of MXs in two different data
> centers?  My thinking is no but I put this out after a couple providers
> came back with WANPHY on their quotes.
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you're describing a wave service provisioned on a carrier's DWDM
>> chassis, for 10G, the ethernet handoff on each side will almost certainly
>> be 1310nm/LX. You also need to understand whether it's been built using
>> LANPHY or WANPHY (eg: is it an OC192 built on a legacy system or is it a
>> native 10Gb Ethernet circuit).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is specifically a wave and not L2 ethernet or MPLS.  Also not
>>> dark.  We lease a lot of metro dark but this is a regional connection and I
>>> have no need or budget for a whole strand on this path.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't mind colored optics, but this is a pretty heavy regional
>>> route and I doubt anyone is running passive DWDM on it.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should ask your provider, what is being handed to you..
>>>> Terminology means little....
>>>>
>>>> Are you purchasing a lit circuit ? or a dark fiber / dark channel ?
>>>>
>>>> If it is a lit circuit, you can expect / specify the hand-off on either
>>>> SMF or MM optics (SMF is more and more common).
>>>> If you are getting a Dark Fiber / Dark Channel, then ask them what type
>>>> of optics you need.
>>>>
>>>> I highly doubt that you are being sold a dark fiber / dark channel..
>>>> very likely 10g Lit circuit.. (many carriers use the term Wave to
>>>> differentiate between Ethernet / MPLS circuits).
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>>
>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 19, 2017 1:00:54 PM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 10g wave lan phy vs 10g wan phy
>>>>
>>>> We are about to sign a contract on a 10G wave and I'm trying to figure
>>>> out what the wan phys should be and whats the difference. I'm assuming we
>>>> would want lan phys.
>>>> Does this make sense and would we just use normal 10G optics on each
>>>> end?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Carl Peterson
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Carl Peterson
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
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>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
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>
> (410) 637-3707
>

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