Local channels are $2-$3 per channel.  Nobody is going to want to add $20 per 
month to their bill but I understand.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 1:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodeo networks IPTV

There are zero over the air channels available in our location (mountains of 
CO) so an an antenna isn’t an option for us.

-Sean


On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:43 PM Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Local channels are a problem because of the cost.  However, if you put up an 
outdoor antenna at that same time, it takes care of the problem.  That is our 
plan for an additional price.  We are testing antennas right now.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:41 PM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodeo networks IPTV

I've been in a similar boat as Chris. Working to make it work, but waiting on 
further progress from the Rodeo side. I've entertained RealChoiceTV as the next 
choice, but the costs are simply too high. Rodeo Networks appears to have a 
good product based on good technology... they just don't have all the 
components in place yet. They are making a large fundamental change on their 
network over the next 2 weeks with improved capacity, and hopefully improved 
transcoding after that.


It seems to me way to secure TV customers is in providing local channels. 
Almost all of the non-local channels have other means of delivery that will 
easily win in a cost comparison.
As far as multicast over a WISP, Cambium has some good examples of functioning 
multicast IPTV systems in Europe(?) using the same base middleware as Rodeo 
over ePMP.
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Chris Fabien 
<ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:
I would wait a few months and check back, I think (hope) they are getting close 
but have zero trust in anything they are telling me that I can't see/verify. If 
there was something with similar capabilities in terms of pricing/channels we 
would have bailed long ago, but I couldn't find another option that I thought 
would work for my customers.
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Sean Heskett 
<af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
Hi Chris,

thanks for your feedback.  I've heard similar experiences from others which is 
now making me gun shy.  I like their pricing and channel lineup but if they 
can't deliver then it really doesn't matter much.

-sean

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Chris Fabien 
<ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote:
They are NOT ready to launch yet. They have been signing resellers up for close 
to a year and they are still building a proper headend with adequate bandwidth 
to provide the service. We signed with them in March, still don't have anything 
we can sell.  The product has promise and they give you the flexibility to 
create your own channel lineup so you can really offer a good value to your 
customers, but the months and months of excuses and poor communication have us 
about ready to throw in the towel on it. I can discuss more offlist if you like.

Chris Fabien
LakeNet LLC


On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Sean Heskett 
<af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
Hello AF gang,

We are looking at potentially going with Rodeo Networks IPTV solution on our 
network but I wanted to first ask the group if anyone has any experience with 
them.  If so would you be willing to discuss (either on-list or off-list) your 
experience.

Thanks!

-Sean


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