If I'm looking at the same thing, that one has a built in AC/DC power
supply... it's just adjusting the output voltage of the power supply, and
there's no DC-DC converter involved, so it makes sense to just run on
battery voltage (as far as I can tell it needs 24v or 48v batteries).

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Yet, the BCM-148 says adjustable Output up to 54v.  Unless you are on
> battery.  Silly
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:35 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traco BCM
>
>
>
> Actually, the BCMU is the model that takes 12v in and upconverts it to
> 48V.  It charges the battery array (in parallel) to about 13v per batter.
> So, why in the world they would design a device that would upconvert that
> to anything less than 48v (without load) is just silly.  We have UBNT
> EP-S16s that will not turn on radios plugged in, if it gets anything less
> than 45.5 to 46 volts.
>
>
>
> But, even on the BCM-148, (where you run 48v in series, it seems to have
> the same design)  45v max output when on battery.
>
>
>
> Pretty bizzare
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Traco BCM
>
>
>
> When running on battery, the load gets battery voltage.  The load being on
> battery (or charger) voltage seems to be the normal behavior for these
> types of systems, so you'd have to really hunt for something that does it
> differently.
>
>
>
> You can hunt for something with a regulated output, or add a DC-DC
> converter inline.
>
>
>
> I haven't yet encountered a 48V device that didn't accept the whole range
> from "batteries nearly dead" to "bulk charging", so I'm wondering what that
> device is that needs >46v.
>
>
>
> .....and I'm not a Traco lover.  I'm kind of disappointed with it
> actually.  We must have bought 40 of those kits about 3 years ago, and we
> now have 3 faulty BCM modules....they work except they no longer charge
> batteries.  I also received a whole box of them where the sticker
> indicating which pin does what on the BCM was 100% backwards. By following
> the sticker rather than the manual I ended up with the temperature sensor
> (thermistor) connected to the reset switch.  Didn't break anything, but
> they units won't turn on that way.
>
>
>
> At the time I needed something 48V at a higher wattage than Meanwell's 48V
> options, and Traco was suggested.  I don't think I'd go there again.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net>
>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
>
> Sent: 1/30/2018 12:59:12 PM
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Traco BCM
>
>
>
> Am I missing something or are the Traco BCM series not very usable in the
> real world?
>
>
>
> Meaning, the BCMU360 can only put out 45v (for a couple minutes, then 44v
> and change), when running on the battery.  Not very usable with some gear
> that requires about 46v to work properly.  Add in voltage drop on a long
> run and no-go.
>
>
>
> I thought maybe the straight BCM 48v series would be better, but they
> appear to have the same spec.
>
>
>
> I have to think I am missing something or who the heck would they sell
> these to? The industry standard is 48v (54v with float) so, outputting 44v
> sustained seems dumb.
>
>
>
> Or is me 😊
>
>
>
> Enlighten me please, you Traco lovers
>
>
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