What's the cost on those? On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have zero issues with these.. > http://www.pulspower.com/?id=565 > > Jaime Solorza > > On Feb 6, 2018 12:44 PM, "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The SDR (eg SDR-240-48 [1]) is a 240W AC-DC 48V power supply. It does >> not have a battery charger. This is what I was talking about. >> >> The unit to avoid is the SD series of Meanwell's DC-DC converters (use >> RSD instead). >> >> [1] https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/?qs=pg%252b85jAIcxt >> NOjEKDbfLJA%3D%3D >> >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> >> wrote: >> >>> After receiving my DRP Meanwell, I can say that this was reversed. The >>> SDR is suitable as a battery charger the DRP is a fixed 24V output power >>> supply. I can team it with the DR-UPS40 to make it the same as the SDR. >>> Now I remember some people mentioned that there was a unit to stay away >>> from because of reset problems? Can anyone resend what that was? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robert >>> >>> On 01/29/2018 10:13 AM, Josh Baird wrote: >>> >>>> SDR is a power supply. >>>> >>>> DRP is a UPS/battery charger. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com >>>> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt >>>> >>>> SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent priced that >>>> >>>> This is what most of our sites have (theres some depreciating >>>> ubnt sectors too) >>>> 4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-48 >>>> 4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24 >>>> Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort >>>> 1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket) (lic: SAF or >>>> Mimosa) >>>> RB1100AHX2 (AC power) >>>> HP 1810 24g switch (AC power) >>>> >>>> APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is probably one of our more heavily populated sites >>>> >>>> 4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v >>>> 4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v >>>> 4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v >>>> 2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS >>>> 2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x Integra soon) >>>> 3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS >>>> 1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS >>>> 1x PTP 650/Cambium PS >>>> 1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS >>>> 1x RB1100AHX2/AC power >>>> 1x HP 1810g 24/AC power >>>> >>>> APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card >>>> >>>> >>>> the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont have the >>>> battery budget >>>> >>>> >>>> Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords and branded >>>> power supplies too. >>>> >>>> I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the power >>>> supplies. >>>> >>>> Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent justified 450m >>>> but may soon and we will roll some LTE in the near term which >>>> will add substantial demand >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron >>>> <david.coud...@advantenon.com >>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> >>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com >>>> <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is what we are doing, I think this is close to what >>>> Steve is >>>> asking for:____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source: $84____ >>>> >>>> Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37____ >>>> >>>> Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131____ >>>> >>>> 24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on the runtime >>>> looking for____ >>>> >>>> Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350 (This is really >>>> the only >>>> expensive component)____ >>>> >>>> Heater: $65____ >>>> >>>> Fan: $14____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small batteries, we >>>> figure >>>> we have several hours to get a generator to the site if >>>> power isn’t >>>> coming back. We run all POE from the Netonix, it works >>>> really >>>> well. Here are the other things we can do with the >>>> box:____ >>>> >>>> 1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____ >>>> 2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power through TP >>>> DIN____ >>>> 3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____ >>>> 4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____ >>>> 5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____ >>>> 6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____ >>>> 7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____ >>>> 8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____ >>>> 9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____ >>>> 10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from the >>>> Netonix____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> We also put a Mikrotik router in this cabinet. Usually a >>>> Hex POE >>>> (for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> We have 13 in the field set up like this and are going 15 >>>> more right >>>> now. While it might be a little more than what you were >>>> thinking, >>>> it gives us a ton of control for pretty minimal investment >>>> per site. >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all this with the >>>> Monitor >>>> Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if you are >>>> interested in >>>> pictures. For this second batch we have started using >>>> Terminal >>>> blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets look a little >>>> better, >>>> but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that makes things a >>>> little >>>> tight.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Regards,____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> David Coudron____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:39 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up netonix. If >>>> I had to >>>> do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we did our >>>> design, the >>>> idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V off of our A >>>> and B >>>> sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus which all the >>>> netonix >>>> switches run on.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> I better buy up another batch of Elteks before all y'all >>>> buy them >>>> all up. These are mostly decommissioned Sprint/Clearwire >>>> btw.____ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird >>>> <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>> >>>> wrote:____ >>>> >>>> A 12 port version would be nice. Looks like the 26 >>>> port version >>>> is $600.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A. Villarini >>>> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> >>>> wrote:____ >>>> >>>> Used to, now with the IDC model is not needed >>>> (isolated dc)…____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Josh Baird >>>> <joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>> >>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" >>>> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>> *Date: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 1:51 PM >>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Which Netonix are you running at - 48V? Or are you >>>> using an >>>> isolated DC/DC converter in between the -48V >>>> rectifier and >>>> Netonix?____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino A. Villarini >>>> <g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> >>>> wrote:____ >>>> >>>> Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48 Rectifier shelf >>>> off Ebay >>>> ~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch $400… all done. >>>> You can >>>> power 90% of WISP gear ____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> on behalf of Steve Jones >>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>> >>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com >>>> > >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" >>>> <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>> *Date: *Friday, January 26, 2018 at 9:49 PM >>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>" <af@afmug.com >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com> >>>> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> >>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Any of you folks who know both dc plant and >>>> even more >>>> know small wisp budget interested in looking at >>>> our gear >>>> and power setup and giving realistic advice >>>> that doesnt >>>> have a 10 different 500 dollar components >>>> combined with >>>> a full time linux guy and a full time coder? >>>> ____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Id love you to do it out of the kindness of >>>> your heart, >>>> but i do have some advisory busget.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> Im just tired of the apc ups waste and super >>>> ghetto >>>> runtimes on batteries coupled with having to >>>> accept we >>>> are destroying runtimes by letting the apcs >>>> die..... >>>> please, somebody, please. Otherwise i have to >>>> go to the >>>> facebook groups, and thats like going to a >>>> mikrotik or >>>> ubnt forum.____ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> __ __ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
