My bad, I missed the voltage adjust hidden in the wire grid on the
bottom. It allows adjustment up to 28V output, which give the battery
float voltage I was looking for (27.4). Alas, that doesn't fix the bad
unit that I received that just sits there clicking an putting out 15-16V
under load.
Now the horrible return process with a off brand amazon purchase.
On the other hand I just discovered Jameco is not accepting paypal and
is now going to be a preferred vendor again...
1/2 the beauty of amazon is that it got vendors to sharpen their pencils
on their in house sales pricing...
On 02/06/2018 12:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Adding a DR-UPS40 isn't really going to change anything as far as the
differences go between the SDR and DRP (unless I'm missing something...
), the DR-UPS40 just puts out the same voltage to the battery that it's
getting in, so it's still going to be fixed at 24v (which is too low for
a proper float charge).
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The SDR (eg SDR-240-48 [1]) is a 240W AC-DC 48V power supply. It
does not have a battery charger. This is what I was talking about.
The unit to avoid is the SD series of Meanwell's DC-DC converters
(use RSD instead).
[1]
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/?qs=pg%252b85jAIcxtNOjEKDbfLJA%3D%3D
<https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/?qs=pg%252b85jAIcxtNOjEKDbfLJA%3D%3D>
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
After receiving my DRP Meanwell, I can say that this was
reversed. The SDR is suitable as a battery charger the DRP is
a fixed 24V output power supply. I can team it with the
DR-UPS40 to make it the same as the SDR. Now I remember some
people mentioned that there was a unit to stay away from because
of reset problems? Can anyone resend what that was?
Thanks,
Robert
On 01/29/2018 10:13 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
SDR is a power supply.
DRP is a UPS/battery charger.
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Robert Andrews
<i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
What does SDR vs DRP mean for the meanwells?
On 01/29/2018 09:56 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
That looks to meet alot of our need, though the 48 volt
SAF recommended Eltek minipack system, i havent
priced that
This is what most of our sites have (theres some
depreciating
ubnt sectors too)
4x EPMP access point/Paketflux injector/Meanwell
DR-120-48
4x AP320/Packetflux injector/Meanwell DR-120-24
Sitemonitor/cambium wallwort
1-2 backhauls (unlic: epmp, ptp500, UBNT rocket)
(lic: SAF or
Mimosa)
RB1100AHX2 (AC power)
HP 1810 24g switch (AC power)
APC 750xl or 1000xl w/management card
This is probably one of our more heavily populated
sites
4x ap320/packetflux/meanwell 48v
4x fsk/packetflux/meanwell 24v
4x EPMP/packetflux/ meanwell 48v
2x UBNT Nanobridge private APs/ubnt PS
2x SAF Lumina/ SAF PS (will be 1x lumina and 2x
Integra soon)
3x UBNT rocket M5/UBNT PS
1x EPMP force 200/EPMP PS
1x PTP 650/Cambium PS
1x sitemonitor/cambium 29v PS
1x RB1100AHX2/AC power
1x HP 1810g 24/AC power
APC 1500XL + 2 External packs and management card
the AC fans run on the utility side because I dont
have the
battery budget
Cabling is a shitshow with all the AC powercords
and branded
power supplies too.
I assume the APC UPS runtime is wasted with all the
power supplies.
Scalability is a factor as well, so far we havent
justified 450m
but may soon and we will roll some LTE in the near
term which
will add substantial demand
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, David Coudron
<david.coud...@advantenon.com
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com
<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>>> wrote:
Here is what we are doing, I think this is
close to what
Steve is
asking for:____
__ __
Meanwell SDR-240-24 AC to DC power source:
$84____
Meanwell DR-UPS40 Battery Float/UPS: $37____
Tycon TPDIN MonitorWeb2: $131____
24 V of battery backup $70-120 depending on
the runtime
looking for____
Netonix 150 W or 250 DC switch: $250-350
(This is really
the only
expensive component)____
Heater: $65____
Fan: $14____
__ __
With this, we can run 5-8 hours on very small
batteries, we
figure
we have several hours to get a generator to
the site if
power isn’t
coming back. We run all POE from the
Netonix, it works really
well. Here are the other things we can do
with the box:____
1. Monitor temp in the cabinet____
2. Monitor/alert on loss of AC line power
through TP DIN____
3. Monitor voltage of the batteries____
4. Monitor voltage to the Netonix____
5. Monitor Current to the Netonix____
6. Monitor Current in/out of the batteries____
7. Auto start the heater below 40 degrees____
8. Auto start the fan above 80 degrees____
9. Power cycle the netonix from the TP DIN____
10. Power cycle any AP, Router, Backhaul from
the Netonix____
__ __
We also put a Mikrotik router in this
cabinet. Usually a
Hex POE
(for small sites) or a 3011 for larger sites.____
__ __
We have 13 in the field set up like this and
are going 15
more right
now. While it might be a little more than
what you were
thinking,
it gives us a ton of control for pretty
minimal investment
per site.
____
__ __
Best part is, no coding necessary. Doing all
this with the
Monitor
Web2 settings and/or SNMP. Let me know if
you are
interested in
pictures. For this second batch we have
started using
Terminal
blocks to clean up the wiring, the cabinets
look a little
better,
but we went to a smaller poly cabinet that
makes things a
little
tight.____
__ __
Regards,____
__ __
David Coudron____
__ __
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant conversion____
__ __
You can still do DC-DC off it and then hook up
netonix. If
I had to
do it now I'd go with the IDC switch. When we
did our
design, the
idc didn't exist so we just went down to 24V
off of our A and B
sides and run a redundant powered 24V bus
which all the netonix
switches run on.____
__ __
I better buy up another batch of Elteks before
all y'all
buy them
all up. These are mostly decommissioned
Sprint/Clearwire
btw.____
On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Josh Baird
<joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>>>
wrote:____
A 12 port version would be nice. Looks
like the 26
port version
is $600.____
__ __
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Gino A.
Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>> wrote:____
Used to, now with the IDC model is not
needed
(isolated dc)…____
__ __
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*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Dc plant
conversion____
__ __
Which Netonix are you running at -
48V? Or are you
using an
isolated DC/DC converter in between
the -48V
rectifier and
Netonix?____
__ __
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Gino
A. Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>> wrote:____
Refurb/ used Eltek/Valere –48
Rectifier shelf
off Ebay
~$400 + 1 Netonix IDC Switch
$400… all done.
You can
power 90% of WISP gear ____
__ __
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*Subject: *[AFMUG] Dc plant
conversion____
__ __
Any of you folks who know both dc
plant and
even more
know small wisp budget interested
in looking at
our gear
and power setup and giving
realistic advice
that doesnt
have a 10 different 500 dollar
components
combined with
a full time linux guy and a full
time coder? ____
__ __
Id love you to do it out of the
kindness of
your heart,
but i do have some advisory
busget.____
__ __
Im just tired of the apc ups waste
and super ghetto
runtimes on batteries coupled with
having to
accept we
are destroying runtimes by letting
the apcs
die.....
please, somebody, please.
Otherwise i have to
go to the
facebook groups, and thats like
going to a
mikrotik or
ubnt forum.____
__ __
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