Many politicians took office when their home TV’s were Black and White.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 3:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Again I say not our problem. Stop trying to force us to be the police. We're 
just a dumb pipe. I'm sure someone has countered that before by saying the 
gov't says only clean water can be put in your utility/city provided water 
pipe. There's an obvious physical danger with contaminated water. They say it's 
the same, but it's not the same, because politicians are technologically 
retarded. If anything, they should put this on the content providers. You know, 
the ones that said Net Neutrality was needed so their content can't be blocked.
On 2/7/2018 2:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Well, not really trying to force religious ideas on the population, just 
religious ideals.

The legislation is attempting to force ISPs to offer an in-house filtering 
product.

Hopefully the bigger ISPs will fight it off.  We have an exemption for the 
smaller ISPs.

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Escape religious persecution in England to com to America. Establish new Mormon 
religion. Escape religious persecution in all kinds of places to finally settle 
in Missouri and Utah. Attempt to force religious ideas on population.

Fucking. Morons.

On Feb 7, 2018 10:23 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Proposed legislation in Utah.

-----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

Where did this post come from? I need some backstory here.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM,  <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
wrote:
Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following to the
legislative working group:
(You guys helped me look smarter than I am ).



Some random thoughts.

If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted.  If you are
attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks the same to us
whether it is porn or online banking.

Do we also block Bit Torrent?
XBox Grand Theft Auto
Any game with online chat.  Scrub online chat during games?
All game servers
Twitter
Instagram
Youtube
News outlets
Facebook
Email
Instant messaging
Periscope
Streaming
FTP
IRC

The lowly ping facility has a space for payload.  I could send porn via
pings if I wanted.

What is defined as harmful content?  Medical, artistic, Bible readings?
Genesis 19, 29 etc etc.
Language, if so what language?  Bare shoulders. Knees?
Curtains blowing in the breeze.

How about what I consider pornographic music lyrics.
Do we have to police music.  Police Pandora.

There are always ways around.
For every block there is a proxy or VPN that will get you around it.

Filters can give parents a false sense of security.  Filters are gimmicks.
Snake oil.
But we do offer them.  Not home grown.  They are 3rd party.


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