Hum. Interesting paradox...imposing religious ideals on people...where have
I heard and seen that before?
Hypocrisy at it's finest.   In this country you can choose to believe in a
turnip as your supreme being for all I care.  Que pinchi mamadas!
Jaime Solorza

On Feb 7, 2018 1:26 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Well, not really trying to force religious ideas on the population, just
> religious ideals.
>
> The legislation is attempting to force ISPs to offer an in-house filtering
> product.
>
> Hopefully the bigger ISPs will fight it off.  We have an exemption for the
> smaller ISPs.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:19 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)
>
> Escape religious persecution in England to com to America. Establish new
> Mormon religion. Escape religious persecution in all kinds of places to
> finally settle in Missouri and Utah. Attempt to force religious ideas on
> population.
>
> Fucking. Morons.
>
> On Feb 7, 2018 10:23 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Proposed legislation in Utah.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)
>>
>> Where did this post come from? I need some backstory here.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM,  <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following to the
>>> legislative working group:
>>> (You guys helped me look smarter than I am ).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some random thoughts.
>>>
>>> If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted.  If you are
>>> attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks the same to
>>> us
>>> whether it is porn or online banking.
>>>
>>> Do we also block Bit Torrent?
>>> XBox Grand Theft Auto
>>> Any game with online chat.  Scrub online chat during games?
>>> All game servers
>>> Twitter
>>> Instagram
>>> Youtube
>>> News outlets
>>> Facebook
>>> Email
>>> Instant messaging
>>> Periscope
>>> Streaming
>>> FTP
>>> IRC
>>>
>>> The lowly ping facility has a space for payload.  I could send porn via
>>> pings if I wanted.
>>>
>>> What is defined as harmful content?  Medical, artistic, Bible readings?
>>> Genesis 19, 29 etc etc.
>>> Language, if so what language?  Bare shoulders. Knees?
>>> Curtains blowing in the breeze.
>>>
>>> How about what I consider pornographic music lyrics.
>>> Do we have to police music.  Police Pandora.
>>>
>>> There are always ways around.
>>> For every block there is a proxy or VPN that will get you around it.
>>>
>>> Filters can give parents a false sense of security.  Filters are
>>> gimmicks.
>>> Snake oil.
>>> But we do offer them.  Not home grown.  They are 3rd party.
>>>
>>>
>>

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