If you look at the rest of the world, many seem to believe the US has
this really weird Puritanical view of the world where gory violence is
100% okay, but you must be at least 18 years old to see a naked human
being.

And they're not wrong.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> who is filtering the analog mediums in this world? they no longer call it
> "sex ed" because its now health ed and no longer is black and white science,
> more soft core porn. Driving down any road where theres any one if fifty
> billion "protests" going on, pussy hats, signs filled with vulgarity, women
> wearing boxes with handholes to finger them through for sexual assault,
> apparently its now a teachers sport to have orgies with students. women in
> restauraints flopping the feedbags out and making sure everyone looks before
> feeding their babies instead of just dropping a shoulder blanket, parades
> full of cross dressing porn acts, and my personal favorite, our airforce
> drawing huge penises in the sky (heh).. the world is gone to hell
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:26 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, not really trying to force religious ideas on the population, just
>> religious ideals.
>>
>> The legislation is attempting to force ISPs to offer an in-house filtering
>> product.
>>
>> Hopefully the bigger ISPs will fight it off.  We have an exemption for the
>> smaller ISPs.
>>
>> From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:19 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)
>>
>> Escape religious persecution in England to com to America. Establish new
>> Mormon religion. Escape religious persecution in all kinds of places to
>> finally settle in Missouri and Utah. Attempt to force religious ideas on
>> population.
>>
>> Fucking. Morons.
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2018 10:23 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Proposed legislation in Utah.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)
>>>
>>> Where did this post come from? I need some backstory here.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM,  <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following to the
>>>> legislative working group:
>>>> (You guys helped me look smarter than I am ).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some random thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted.  If you are
>>>> attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks the same to
>>>> us
>>>> whether it is porn or online banking.
>>>>
>>>> Do we also block Bit Torrent?
>>>> XBox Grand Theft Auto
>>>> Any game with online chat.  Scrub online chat during games?
>>>> All game servers
>>>> Twitter
>>>> Instagram
>>>> Youtube
>>>> News outlets
>>>> Facebook
>>>> Email
>>>> Instant messaging
>>>> Periscope
>>>> Streaming
>>>> FTP
>>>> IRC
>>>>
>>>> The lowly ping facility has a space for payload.  I could send porn via
>>>> pings if I wanted.
>>>>
>>>> What is defined as harmful content?  Medical, artistic, Bible readings?
>>>> Genesis 19, 29 etc etc.
>>>> Language, if so what language?  Bare shoulders. Knees?
>>>> Curtains blowing in the breeze.
>>>>
>>>> How about what I consider pornographic music lyrics.
>>>> Do we have to police music.  Police Pandora.
>>>>
>>>> There are always ways around.
>>>> For every block there is a proxy or VPN that will get you around it.
>>>>
>>>> Filters can give parents a false sense of security.  Filters are
>>>> gimmicks.
>>>> Snake oil.
>>>> But we do offer them.  Not home grown.  They are 3rd party.
>>>>
>>>
>

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