Again I say not our problem. Stop trying to force us to be the police. We're just a dumb pipe. I'm sure someone has countered that before by saying the gov't says only clean water can be put in your utility/city provided water pipe. There's an obvious physical danger with contaminated water. They say it's the same, but it's not the same, because politicians are technologically retarded. If anything, they should put this on the content providers. You know, the ones that said Net Neutrality was needed so their content can't be blocked.

On 2/7/2018 2:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Well, not really trying to force religious ideas on the population, just religious ideals. The legislation is attempting to force ISPs to offer an in-house filtering product. Hopefully the bigger ISPs will fight it off.  We have an exemption for the smaller ISPs.
*From:* Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)
Escape religious persecution in England to com to America. Establish new Mormon religion. Escape religious persecution in all kinds of places to finally settle in Missouri and Utah. Attempt to force religious ideas on population.
Fucking. Morons.
On Feb 7, 2018 10:23 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    Proposed legislation in Utah.

    -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
    Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:04 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering)

    Where did this post come from? I need some backstory here.

    On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM,  <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following
        to the
        legislative working group:
        (You guys helped me look smarter than I am ).



        Some random thoughts.

        If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted.  If
        you are
        attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks
        the same to us
        whether it is porn or online banking.

        Do we also block Bit Torrent?
        XBox Grand Theft Auto
        Any game with online chat.  Scrub online chat during games?
        All game servers
        Twitter
        Instagram
        Youtube
        News outlets
        Facebook
        Email
        Instant messaging
        Periscope
        Streaming
        FTP
        IRC

        The lowly ping facility has a space for payload.  I could send
        porn via
        pings if I wanted.

        What is defined as harmful content?  Medical, artistic, Bible
        readings?
        Genesis 19, 29 etc etc.
        Language, if so what language?  Bare shoulders. Knees?
        Curtains blowing in the breeze.

        How about what I consider pornographic music lyrics.
        Do we have to police music.  Police Pandora.

        There are always ways around.
        For every block there is a proxy or VPN that will get you
        around it.

        Filters can give parents a false sense of security. Filters
        are gimmicks.
        Snake oil.
        But we do offer them.  Not home grown.  They are 3rd party.



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