Our experience has been we get more throughput and more reliability from the AF11 than the B11. The B11s always seemed to be choking on high throughput. We gave up on them, and the AF11s are easier to license in congested areas anyway.

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On 2/10/2018 5:12 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yes, the AF11 can do more throughput on the same spectrum compared to the B11, but the B11 can use more spectrum (a lot more, granted), so it can do more throughput than the AF11 can. You can get close to a full gig in one direction with the B11 (assuming you can license enough spectrum), but you can only get around 650Mbps in one direction with the AF11 (it's a real full duplex radio though, so aggregate isn't that much different if you need a 50/50 split).

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    What others have said about distance. Short (up to 3 miles or so)
    24 GHz. Medium (up to 8-9 miles) 18 GHz. Long (up to 20 miles) 11
    GHz. Longest 6 GHz.

    I disagree with the B11 versus AF11. The AF11 will provide more
    throughput on less spectrum. Probably less expensive too.


    bp
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    On 2/10/2018 2:57 PM, David Coudron wrote:

    I know this topic has come up before, but thought I would throw
    it out again to hear additional thoughts as products continue to
    evolve.�� We have been doing primarily 5 GHz backhaul using
    Mimosa products for the last couple of years.�� Their
    frequency reuse has really helped us, but we are starting to see
    more locations that have lots of noise.�� We�d like to make
    the jump to higher frequencies and are looking at 11 GHz and 24
    GHz for that.�� The links we need are fairly short, 6-10
    miles max, which pushes the limits of the 24 GHz solutions, but
    with a very clean line of site we think we are in range for the
    links we are looking at as far as the design tools tell us.��
    For 11 GHz, we would likely stay with the Mimosa product line, we
    know it pretty well and have all the management tools in place
    for it.�� For 24 GHz we�d likely go with the Ubiquiti AF 24
    or AF 24 HD.�� We have worked with Ubiquiti stuff here and
    there, and just don�t have much familiarity with any other
    options outside of AirFiber.� Here is where we see the Pros and
    Cons of the two options:

    �

    Mimosa 11 GHz Pros:

     1. Licensed, should be clean spectrum for the full term of the
        license and require less babysitting for interference
     2. Should support longer links, but that isn�t a big
        consideration for us as it looks like everything we will need
        is under the limits of the HD for sure and likely the AF 24
        as well
     3. Little less susceptible to rain fade

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    Cons:

     1. Have to mess around with the license and there is a cost
        associated with it
     2. Have to buy the dish separately, and know which to use before
        applying for the license
     3. Not quite as much throughput (when compared to the AF 24 HD)
     4. More expensive that the AF 24 (but likely a little less than
        the HD)

    �

    �

    Ubiquiti AF 24 Pros:

     1. All in one unit, easy to figure out what to have on hand for
        all links
     2. No messing around with licenses, making it much quicker to deploy
     3. Higher throughput on the HD

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    Cons:

     1. Unlicensed.� Might fight other noise out there, and even
        quiet links now might have noise later
     2. Not as familiar with this tool set as we are with Mimosa,
        although this isn�t a big consideration as we have worked
        with lots of Ubiquiti products
     3. Cost of HD is pretty high for an unlicensed link

    �

    Here are some questions we are hoping for help with:

     1. How much room in the unlicensed band is there to move
        channels if you see other noise out there?�� We have been
        looking but are finding it tough to figure out if we run wide
        channels, and see noise, will we be able to move to other
        channels.
     2. Is it reasonable to think you can push 1.2 aggregate IP
        traffic across any of the three options B11, AF24 or
        AF24HD?�� Seems like a well planned link with great line
        of site at 6 miles should be able to, but looking for some
        real world experience.
     3. Any oddball items we should take into consideration other
        than the ones already mentioned here? Or are we missing some
        obvious questions?

    �

    Thanks,

    �

    David Coudron

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