That really isn't real choice's fault. As an ISP you should probably already have a landing point in a data center somewhere.
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Sure. But it doesn’t matter what data center you’re in. You’re not getting > a Gigabit connection back to your NOC for $100/month. > > On Feb 25, 2018, at 14:24, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> > wrote: > > Matt, > It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent > connectivity and you can too can get access to these things. > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@ > rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > >> ???? How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month? >> >> Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we >> last talked. >> >> On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: >> >> Chuck, >> We should talk. We have so many more connection points now it is >> pretty easy and cheap to connect to us. Most connections now are between >> $100 and $600. >> >> -Layne >> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or >> embarrassing auto-corrects! >> >> On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are >> transporting to one of use via VPN? >> >> I think the chance is low. >> Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care? >> >> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the >> VPN method. >> >> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very >> close to you. >> >> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... >> right....? >> >> *From:* Layne Sisk >> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> >> When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to >> your customers and you won’t make anything. >> >> >> >> Layne Sisk >> >> ServerPlus >> >> 801.426.8283, ext 102 >> >> <image001.png> <http://www.serverplus.com/> >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png] >> <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/> >> >> [image: http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png] >> <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus> >> >> <image002.jpg> <image003.png><image004.jpg> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> >> >> That's how technology is. >> >> Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going >> to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want >> to choose the wrong technology/solution. >> >> Thanks, >> _________________________ >> Clint Wiley >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> The statement of the week... >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> Maybe. Time will tell. >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same >> lineup. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the >> public internet, why not RCTV? >> >> Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like >> this. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clint Wiley >> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> >> I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it >> adds >> an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. >> >> Thanks, >> _________________________ >> >> Clint Wiley >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >> >> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> > >> > That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different >> > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could >> drop >> > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get >> > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. >> > >> > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was >> > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN >> > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes >> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM >> > To: af@afmug.com >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >> > >> > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private >> line >> > requirement. >> > >> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If >> so, >> >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale >> >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. >> on >> >> either provider? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> _________________________ >> >> Clint Wiley >> >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071> > C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180> > http://www.amarillowireless.net > <http://www.amarillowireless.net> > > > -- Adair Winter VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
