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That doesn’t mean squat. I still have cross connect fees and other fees involved. It isn’t as simple or cheap as it’s made out to sound. > On Feb 25, 2018, at 15:37, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: > > That really isn't real choice's fault. > As an ISP you should probably already have a landing point in a data center > somewhere. > >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Matt Hoppes >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >> Sure. But it doesn’t matter what data center you’re in. You’re not getting a >> Gigabit connection back to your NOC for $100/month. >> >>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 14:24, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: >>> >>> Matt, >>> It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent >>> connectivity and you can too can get access to these things. >>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>> ???? How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month? >>>> >>>> Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we >>>> last talked. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chuck, >>>>> We should talk. We have so many more connection points now it is >>>>> pretty easy and cheap to connect to us. Most connections now are between >>>>> $100 and $600. >>>>> >>>>> -Layne >>>>> Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or >>>>> embarrassing auto-corrects! >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are >>>>>> transporting to one of use via VPN? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the chance is low. >>>>>> Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care? >>>>>> >>>>>> When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to >>>>>> the VPN method. >>>>>> >>>>>> How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very >>>>>> close to you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... >>>>>> right....? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Layne Sisk >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to >>>>>> your customers and you won’t make anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Layne Sisk >>>>>> >>>>>> ServerPlus >>>>>> >>>>>> 801.426.8283, ext 102 >>>>>> >>>>>> <image001.png> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <image002.jpg> <image003.png><image004.jpg> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That's how technology is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not >>>>>> going to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t >>>>>> want to choose the wrong technology/solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> _________________________ >>>>>> Clint Wiley >>>>>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The statement of the week... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe. Time will tell. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the >>>>>> same lineup. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>>>> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the >>>>>> public internet, why not RCTV? >>>>>> >>>>>> Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like >>>>>> this. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Clint Wiley >>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM >>>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it >>>>>> adds >>>>>> an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> _________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Wiley >>>>>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >>>>>> >>>>>> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different >>>>>> > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could >>>>>> > drop >>>>>> > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never >>>>>> > get >>>>>> > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I >>>>>> > was >>>>>> > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over >>>>>> > VPN >>>>>> > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with >>>>>> > it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes >>>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM >>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV >>>>>> > >>>>>> > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private >>>>>> > line >>>>>> > requirement. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> >>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hi, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If >>>>>> >> so, >>>>>> >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale >>>>>> >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, >>>>>> >> etc. on >>>>>> >> either provider? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Thanks, >>>>>> >> _________________________ >>>>>> >> Clint Wiley >>>>>> >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Adair Winter >>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner >>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 >>> C: 806.231.7180 >>> http://www.amarillowireless.net >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > -- > Adair Winter > VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner > Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 > C: 806.231.7180 > http://www.amarillowireless.net > > > >
