Sometimes that's easier said than done.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/25/2018 2:24:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

Matt,
It's not rocket science, move in to a real data center that has decent connectivity and you can too can get access to these things.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
????  How are people getting direct fiber feeds for $100/month?

Clearly I need to stop by your booth and see what has changed since we last talked.

On Feb 25, 2018, at 13:43, Layne Sisk <la...@serverplus.com> wrote:

Chuck,
We should talk. We have so many more connection points now it is pretty easy and cheap to connect to us. Most connections now are between $100 and $600.

-Layne
Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or embarrassing auto-corrects!

On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are transporting to one of use via VPN?

I think the chance is low.
Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care?

When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the VPN method.

How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close to you.

Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....?

From:Layne Sisk
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to your customers and you won’t make anything.



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV



That's how technology is.

Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going to find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up.



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From: "Clint Wiley" <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to choose the wrong technology/solution.

Thanks,
_________________________
Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet




On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

The statement of the week...



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From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

Maybe. Time will tell.


On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same lineup.



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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the
public internet, why not RCTV?

Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Wiley
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV

I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds
an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover.

Thanks,
_________________________

Clint Wiley
Hagerstown Fiber Internet

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "ch...@wbmfg.com" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could drop > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught.
>
> Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV
>
> RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line
> requirement.
>
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <cl...@hagerstownfiber.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on
>> either provider?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> _________________________
>> Clint Wiley
>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet










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