Might I suggest an entry on PeeringDB.com? There you can list your AS and then 
mark down all of the facilities you're in as well as IXes you are on. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 1:23:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 


Layne can you share a list of connection points to the list? Have you changed 
pricing at all since you and I talked last? 
Thanks 
Chris 




On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Layne Sisk < la...@serverplus.com > wrote: 



Chuck, 
We should talk. We have so many more connection points now it is pretty easy 
and cheap to connect to us. Most connections now are between $100 and $600. 


-Layne 
Sent from my iPhone, so please excuse any misspelled words or embarrassing 
auto-corrects! 

On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:29 PM, " ch...@wbmfg.com " < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 


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Layne, what is the real world chance of anyone discovering that you are 
transporting to one of use via VPN? 

I think the chance is low. 
Then if discovered, what is the chance that the programmers will care? 

When I was working with Dallas, I had quite a few of them agreeing to the VPN 
method. 

How about this, you sell to me, I take delivery in a data center very close to 
you. 

Then what I do to transport to the edge server is my business... right....? 




From: Layne Sisk 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 10:19 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 



When they do you won’t be able to resell it, they will just sell it to your 
customers and you won’t make anything. 


Layne Sisk 
ServerPlus 
801.426.8283, ext 102 
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From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:40 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 


That's how technology is. 

Until DirecTV, Google, Sony, etc. get full line-ups OTT, you're not going to 
find something you can sell that's going to have a full line-up. 



----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Clint Wiley" < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:01:32 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want to 
choose the wrong technology/solution. 


Thanks, 
_________________________ 
Clint Wiley 
Hagerstown Fiber Internet 




On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


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The statement of the week... 



----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Matt Hoppes" < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

Maybe. Time will tell. 


On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 
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I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same 
lineup. 



----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the 
public internet, why not RCTV? 

Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Clint Wiley 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 

I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds 
an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. 

Thanks, 
_________________________ 

Clint Wiley 
Hagerstown Fiber Internet 

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, " ch...@wbmfg.com " < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 
> 
> That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different 
> tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could drop 
> it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get 
> caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. 
> 
> Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was 
> trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN 
> (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes 
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM 
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV 
> 
> RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line 
> requirement. 
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > wrote: 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If so, 
>> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale 
>> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. on 
>> either provider? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> _________________________ 
>> Clint Wiley 
>> Hagerstown Fiber Internet 




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