I understand your point of view, I just made a different decision. I pay 
ServerPlus to handle my support. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
To: af@afmug.com, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:03:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 

Wait... Mike... are we agreeing again? 

On 3/26/18 1:49 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
> You're still reading this wrong. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> 
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>  
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> 
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> 
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> *To: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> *Cc: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 12:48:18 PM 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus 
> 
> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for 
> 400/mo. 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: 
> 
> You're missing my point. 
> 
> Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week. 
> 
> But there are minimums with SP. Plus there are the calls that are 
> mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?". 
> 
> BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the 
> support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring 
> someone -- who I can now use for other things. 
> 
> On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
> 
> Sounds like you have too many support calls. I couldn't 
> possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get 
> close to my per call cost with ServerPlus... 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: 
> 
> Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did this 
> economic model. 
> 
> I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9. 
> 
> With a well running network support calls are near nothing. 
> I took 
> the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have 
> people 
> who do phones and other things. 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman 
> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>> wrote: 
> 
> I would say that if you want local pronunciations of 
> words you 
> should run your open tech support. 
> 
> I don't think most people care. They are normally happy 
> just to 
> have someone speak English that they can understand. 
> Until you get 
> about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to 
> the cost 
> that Lane can. 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds 
> <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>> wrote: 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ> 
> 
> "IN-DE GO" :) 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: 
> 
> It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. 
> Like a 
> butchered version of the six fingered man. 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds 
> <j...@kyneticwifi.com 
> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>> wrote: 
> 
> That's how it's pronounced... 
> 
> Maybe a regional thing? 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: 
> 
> GTC does this too. I don’t know why 
> it’s so hard. 
> 
> The company I used to work for was 
> “Indigo Wireless”. 
> They always say In Dee Go. 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling 
> Jacobson 
> <sterl...@avative.net 
> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net> 
> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>> 
> wrote: 
> 
> They are working well for us, and I 
> have a horrible 
> generic support DT, lol!____ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> I have had zero complaints from my 
> customers so far 
> this year, so I think they are 
> doing well.____ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> The only feedback I’ve had is 
> customers hear our 
> company name pronounced five 
> different ways, even 
> though the DT instructs the proper 
> pronunciation.____ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> But it’s a made-up name so my 
> customer are always 
> confused on pronunciation 
> themselves.____ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> 
> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of 
> *ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> 
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018 
> 11:25 AM 
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus____ 
> 
> __ __ 
> 
> I would add that Layne’s service is 
> only as good as 
> the decision tree that you provide 
> to him. The more 
> detailed DT, the better the service 
> will be. ____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> *From:*Layne Sisk ____ 
> 
> *Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018 
> 10:48 AM____ 
> 
> *To:*af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> ____ 
> 
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> I would like to share some solid 
> stats with the 
> group. Please see those below. 
> The comment about a 
> decline is hard to address without 
> looking at 
> stats. Kind of like the user that 
> calls you and 
> vaguely says “My internet seems 
> slow” when you have 
> stats that show they are getting 
> more than they are 
> paying for. We have hired a number 
> of new people 
> recently because we have grown and 
> have added a new 
> office but as Justin said this is a 
> slow time of the 
> year so we also took advantage of 
> this time to get 
> rid of some of our weaker 
> performers. Here are the 
> company wide stats for the past 
> week with some 
> comments about them, I would stack 
> these up against 
> any call center in the world. 
> Sorry if I come on 
> strong, but as you all know this is 
> my baby and I 
> care a lot about it just like you 
> do about your 
> networks. I know we are not 
> perfect, out of 6000 
> calls I am sure we made a mistake 
> or two and I am 
> happy to address any individual 
> issue directly, but 
> I am pretty proud of what we do. ____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> *_OFFICE STATS_____* 
> 
> 
> 
> *______* 
> 
> 
> 
> *______* 
> 
> 
> 
> *______* 
> 
> 
> 
> *______* 
> 
> 
> 
> *_SP_____* 
> 
> 
> 
> *_GOAL_____* 
> 
> 
> 
> *_Comment_____* 
> 
> *AVERAGE TALK TIME____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0:11:05____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0:10:00____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Down from over 13 min 2 months ago____ 
> 
> * TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 69.94%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 80%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> This is agent utilization____ 
> 
> *SURVEY SCORE____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 91.66%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 95%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 91.66% of callers would recommend 
> the service That is a number any 
> company would kill for____ 
> 
> *SURVEY TAKEN____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 20.57%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 20%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> A full 20% of callers responded to 
> our survey, that 
> number is unheard of____ 
> 
> *TECH ESCALATION____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 39.31%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 20%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Higher escalation percentage this 
> week because of 
> the storms and significant network 
> outages____ 
> 
> *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0:11:47____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0:10:00____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Down from over 30 min 4 months ago____ 
> 
> *QA SCORE____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 92.05%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 95%____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Happy to share our QA form with 
> anyone who would 
> like to see it____ 
> 
> *____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> *_COMPANY STATS_____* 
> 
> 
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> *______* 
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> *______* 
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> *______* 
> 
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> *______* 
> 
> 
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> *_SP_____* 
> 
> 
> 
> *_GOAL_____* 
> 
> 
> 
> *______* 
> 
> *____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
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> *CALL WAIT TIME____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0:01:52____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 2:00____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Less than 2 min wait time even 
> though our SLA is 
> less than 3____ 
> 
> *BILLABLE CALLS____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 6112____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 10,000____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Reflection of the slow season____ 
> 
> *____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
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> 
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> ____ 
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> ____ 
> 
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> 
> ____ 
> 
> *ABANDONED TIME____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 0.37____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 2:00____ 
> 
> 
> 
> Outage recordings cause people to 
> hang up once they 
> hear the recording____ 
> 
> *____* 
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> *CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR____* 
> 
> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> 
> ____ 
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> 
> 
> 4.10____ 
> 
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> 
> 5.45____ 
> 
> 
> 
> This is calls answered per worked 
> hour____ 
> 
> *____* 
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> ____ 
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> ____ 
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> ____ 
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> ____ 
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> ____ 
> 
> Layne Sisk____ 
> 
> ServerPlus____ 
> 
> 801.426.8283, ext 102 <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102> 
> <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%20102>____ 
> 
> <image001.png> 
> <http://www.serverplus.com/>____ 
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png____ 
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png 
> 
> <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>____ 
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png 
> 
> <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>____ 
> 
> <image002.jpg> 
> <image003.png><image004.jpg> ____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> *From:*Af 
> [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf 
> Of *Steve Jones 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 10:30 PM 
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com>> 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serverplus____ 
> 
> ____ 
> 
> Has anyone noted a consistent 
> decline in quality 
> with these guys, and a large number 
> of different 
> tech names in their tickets?____ 
> 
> Its almost looking like they 
> outsourced their 
> outsourcing.____ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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