...but dont mistake that as a 5 star rating

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> but no 24x7 support.
>
> one thing ive never complained about with serverplus is there price
>
> granted i vultured an employee to do it
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.
>>
>> No one is going to work for $400/month.   But I put that $400 towards the
>> person's pay and now I have a person to do other things as well.
>>
>> On 3/26/18 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>> I want to know where you're finding people that are worth employing for
>>> 400/mo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matt Hoppes <
>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattlists@rivervalleyi
>>> nternet.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     You're missing my point.
>>>
>>>     Support calls are maybe 2-4 a week.
>>>
>>>     But there are minimums with SP.  Plus there are the calls that are
>>>     mis-directed that I would end up paying for, or "Is Matt there?".
>>>
>>>     BUT... by bringing my sales in-house ($300-$400/month) plus the
>>>     support (around the same amount) I'm now part way to just hiring
>>>     someone -- who I can now use for other things.
>>>
>>>     On 3/26/18 10:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>>         Sounds like you have too many support calls.  I couldn't
>>>         possibly hire someone 40 hours a week at minimum wage and get
>>>         close to my per call cost with ServerPlus...
>>>
>>>
>>>         Josh Luthman
>>>         Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>         Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>         1100 Wayne St
>>>         Suite 1337
>>>         Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>         On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Matt Hoppes
>>>         <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>         <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>         <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>         <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              Interesting point. We are at 1,000 subs I and I just did
>>> this
>>>              economic model.
>>>
>>>              I don’t have 24x7 support. But do have 9-9.
>>>
>>>              With a well running network support calls are near nothing.
>>>         I took
>>>              the money I was going to pay SP and hired staff. Now I have
>>>         people
>>>              who do phones and other things.
>>>
>>>              On Mar 25, 2018, at 06:32, Lewis Bergman
>>>         <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>              <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                  I would say that if you want local pronunciations of
>>>             words you
>>>                  should run your open tech support.
>>>
>>>                  I don't think most people care. They are normally happy
>>>             just to
>>>                  have someone speak English that they can understand.
>>>             Until you get
>>>                  about 8000 subs I doubt you can do it anywhere close to
>>>             the cost
>>>                  that Lane can.
>>>
>>>                  On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 3:42 PM Josh Reynolds
>>>             <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>                  <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>             <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>>             <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ>
>>>                      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ
>>>             <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyJXDdlD4jQ>>
>>>
>>>                      "IN-DE GO" :)
>>>
>>>                      On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:45 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>>                      <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>             <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>                      <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>             <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                          It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go.
>>>             Like a
>>>                          butchered version of the six fingered man.
>>>
>>>                          On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds
>>>                          <j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>             <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>             <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                              That's how it's pronounced...
>>>
>>>                              Maybe a regional thing?
>>>
>>>                              On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
>>>                              <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>                 <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>                              <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>                 <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                  GTC does this too. I don’t know why
>>>                 it’s so hard.
>>>
>>>                                  The company I used to work for was
>>>                 “Indigo Wireless”.
>>>                                  They always say In Dee Go.
>>>
>>>                                  On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling
>>>                 Jacobson
>>>                                  <sterl...@avative.net
>>>                 <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
>>>                 <mailto:sterl...@avative.net <mailto:
>>> sterl...@avative.net>>>
>>>
>>>                                  wrote:
>>>
>>>                                      They are working well for us, and I
>>>                     have a horrible
>>>                                      generic support DT, lol!____
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      I have had zero complaints from my
>>>                     customers so far
>>>                                      this year, so I think they are
>>>                     doing well.____
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      The only feedback I’ve had is
>>>                     customers hear our
>>>                                      company name pronounced five
>>>                     different ways, even
>>>                                      though the DT instructs the proper
>>>                     pronunciation.____
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      But it’s a made-up name so my
>>>                     customer are always
>>>                                      confused on pronunciation
>>>                     themselves.____
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>
>>>                                      <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of
>>>                                      *ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>                     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>                     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
>>>                                      *Sent:* Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>>                     11:25 AM
>>>                                      *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>>                                      *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
>>> Serverplus____
>>>
>>>                                      __ __
>>>
>>>                                      I would add that Layne’s service is
>>>                     only as good as
>>>                                      the decision tree that you provide
>>>                     to him.  The more
>>>                                      detailed DT, the better the service
>>>                     will be. ____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      *From:*Layne Sisk ____
>>>
>>>                                      *Sent:*Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>>                     10:48 AM____
>>>
>>>                                      *To:*af@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
>>>
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com>> ____
>>>
>>>                                      *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      I would like to share some solid
>>>                     stats with the
>>>                                      group.  Please see those below.
>>>                  The comment about a
>>>                                      decline is hard to address without
>>>                     looking at
>>>                                      stats.  Kind of like the user that
>>>                     calls you and
>>>                                      vaguely  says “My internet seems
>>>                     slow” when you have
>>>                                      stats that show they are getting
>>>                     more than they are
>>>                                      paying for.  We have hired a number
>>>                     of new people
>>>                                      recently because we have grown and
>>>                     have added a new
>>>                                      office but as Justin said this is a
>>>                     slow time of the
>>>                                      year so we also took advantage of
>>>                     this time to get
>>>                                      rid of some of our weaker
>>>                     performers.  Here are the
>>>                                      company wide stats for the past
>>>                     week with some
>>>                                      comments about them, I would stack
>>>                     these up against
>>>                                      any call center in the world.
>>>                Sorry if I come on
>>>                                      strong, but as you all know this is
>>>                     my baby and I
>>>                                      care a lot about it just like you
>>>                     do about your
>>>                                      networks.  I know we are not
>>>                     perfect, out of 6000
>>>                                      calls I am sure we made a mistake
>>>                     or two and I am
>>>                                      happy to address any individual
>>>                     issue directly, but
>>>                                      I am pretty proud of what we do.
>>> ____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      *_OFFICE STATS_____*
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>>>
>>>
>>>                                      *______*
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>>>                                      *______*
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>>>                                      *______*
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>>>                                      *______*
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>>>
>>>                                      *_SP_____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      *_GOAL_____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      *_Comment_____*
>>>
>>>                                      *AVERAGE TALK TIME____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      0:11:05____
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>>>                                      0:10:00____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      Down from over 13 min 2 months
>>> ago____
>>>
>>>                                      *  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED____*
>>>
>>>
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>
>>>                                      69.94%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      80%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      This is agent utilization____
>>>
>>>                                      *SURVEY SCORE____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>
>>>                                      91.66%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      95%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      91.66% of callers would recommend
>>>                     the service That                 is a number any
>>>                     company would kill for____
>>>
>>>                                      *SURVEY TAKEN____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      20.57%____
>>>
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>>>
>>>                                      20%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      A full 20% of callers responded to
>>>                     our survey, that
>>>                                      number is unheard of____
>>>
>>>                                      *TECH ESCALATION____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
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>>>
>>>                                      39.31%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      20%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      Higher escalation percentage this
>>>                     week because of
>>>                                      the storms and significant network
>>>                     outages____
>>>
>>>                                      *ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME____*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      0:11:47____
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>>>                                      0:10:00____
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>>>                                      Down from over 30 min 4 months
>>> ago____
>>>
>>>                                      *QA SCORE____*
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      92.05%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      95%____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      Happy to share our QA form with
>>>                     anyone who would
>>>                                      like to see it____
>>>
>>>                                      *____*
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>>>                                      *_COMPANY STATS_____*
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>>>                                      *______*
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>>>                                      *______*
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>>>                                      *_SP_____*
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>>>                                      *_GOAL_____*
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>>>                                      *CALL WAIT TIME____*
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>>>                                      0:01:52____
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>>>                                      2:00____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      Less than 2 min wait time even
>>>                     though our SLA is
>>>                                      less than 3____
>>>
>>>                                      *BILLABLE CALLS____*
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>>>                                      ____
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>>>                                      6112____
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>>>                                      10,000____
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>>>
>>>                                      Reflection of the slow season____
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>>>                                      0.37____
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>>>                                      Outage recordings cause people to
>>>                     hang up once they
>>>                                      hear the recording____
>>>
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>>>                                      *CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR____*
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>>>                                      This is calls answered per worked
>>>                     hour____
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>>>                                      Layne Sisk____
>>>
>>>                                      ServerPlus____
>>>
>>>                     801.426.8283, ext 102 <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%201
>>> 02>
>>>                                      <tel:801.426.8283%2C%20ext%201
>>> 02>____
>>>
>>>                                      <image001.png>
>>>                     <http://www.serverplus.com/>____
>>>
>>>                     http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png____
>>>                     <http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png____>
>>>
>>>                     http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png
>>>                                                         <
>>> https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/
>>>                     <https://www.facebook.com/ServerPlus365/>>____
>>>
>>>                     http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png
>>>                                      <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus
>>>                     <https://twitter.com/RealServerPlus>>____
>>>
>>>                                      <image002.jpg>
>>>                     <image003.png><image004.jpg> ____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      *From:*Af
>>>                     [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf
>>>                                      Of *Steve Jones
>>>                                      *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018
>>> 10:30 PM
>>>                                      *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
>>>                     <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>>                                      *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serverplus____
>>>
>>>                                      ____
>>>
>>>                                      Has anyone noted a consistent
>>>                     decline in quality
>>>                                      with these guys, and a large number
>>>                     of different
>>>                                      tech names in their tickets?____
>>>
>>>                                      Its almost looking like they
>>>                     outsourced their
>>>                                      outsourcing.____
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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