John, I definitely feel the same way about the massive obscurities. I even tried muddling through his diagrams and explanations to no avail. What I was able to do is port his ungodly bizarre code to java - literally copying and pasting with a few syntax tweaks - and got it running... somewhat. I still don’t even know where to begin to really "get" what’s going on.
My Java "mind" can "say" a few things before crapping out on me. What bugs me the most is the EnBoot module. A ton of direct variable assignments are made, and I don’t get why certain values were chosen... It’s a nightmare that runs on internet explorer. But it’s something. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:14 AM, <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > Arthur, > > Every time you start posting about your "AI Mind" app I briefly go and look > at the JS source, "View page source" from the web browser, and here are a few > thoughts (after working with thousands of source codes over the years, and > instead of me just saying "If there were an example of how not to write an AI > app this would be it"): > > 1. Ancient source code started when variable names were required to be short > due to memory constraints, programmer laziness, and/or unprofessional > selfishness. > > 2. App code has never been truly refined out of small memory constraints. > > 3. Code is intentionally obscure to hide non-understandings but provide a > sense of security to author and others by representing "something" abstractly. > > 4. Obscure code to deceive readers - or - honestly and unintentionally hiding > the misunderstood complexity of subject by making a first-person reasonable > effort at understanding but unprovably failing. > > 5. Code probably cannot be clearly rewritten since there are obscured > forgotten memories of misunderstood concepts though somewhat indexed by dates > as comments. > > 6. All these things encrusted over time... layer after layer... often hosted > as a talking point, a reference point for similar related limitations. > > 7. - OR - with very low probability, there is real genius hidden in said > code, loops and loops of abstract recursive representations, the most > advanced chat-bot ever created... but I have not the time or energy to > investigate further as I assume few have, perhaps another intention of said > app is to wear out the seeker of such truths? I cannot rule-out that this app > is actually towards some really great AI but unfortunately it looks like the > opposite and is childishly underpowered and frivolously incomplete. > > But there is some sort of novelty to this I suppose. > > If there were a museum of coding oddities this would definitely be top 10. > > IMO the code one writes is a reflection of oneself, a projection of sort. "AI > Mind" is more about you Arthur, your mind over time, and much is revealed. > > So, you can imagine if an AGI were to attempt to kludgely hack out some > representation of a mind in similar circumstance what would it "hide", limit, > and represent at the same time? What would it look like? > > Note JavaScript and JavaScript AI is becoming increasingly advanced. For > example, see FAQ auto-creators, bot builders, etc. that use JS and Typescript > is a very powerful abstraction of JS that is surprisingly becoming widely > adopted... > > John > > [Artificial General Intelligence List](https://agi.topicbox.com/latest) / AGI > / see [discussions](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi) + > [participants](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members) + [delivery > options](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups) > [Permalink](https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7d4ef049c1079ece-M6a7c94400bd97137369b5f87) ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7d4ef049c1079ece-M1723b88611b1c44a3fd46b7e Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups
