These aren't the only 4 possible simulation scenarios. There are probably others we cannot imagine because the simulation doesn't allow us to.
And no, I can't give you an example for that reason. It is like saying that the vast majority of real numbers don't have a finite length description. I can't give you an example of one of those either. On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 5:39 PM TimTyler <t...@tt1.org> wrote: > On 2019-09-02 16:39:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > > Here are at least 4 possibilities, listed in decreasing order of > > complexity, and therefore increasing likelihood if Occam's Razor holds > > outside the simulation. > > > > 1. Only your brain exists. All of your sensory inputs are simulated by > > a model of a non-existent outside world. The universe running this > > simulation is completely different and we can know nothing about it. > > It might be that space, time, matter, and life are abstract concepts > > that exist only in the model. > > > > 2. Your mind, memories, and existence are also simulated. You didn't > > exist one second ago. > > > > 3. The observable universe is modeled in a few hundred bits of code > > tuned to allow intelligence life to evolve. In this case the speed of > > light is in the code. > > > > 4. All possible universes with all possible laws of physics exist and > > we necessary observe one that allows intelligent life to evolve. > > This makes 3 and 4 sound more likely. However, there's a problem with > that argument - > > which is that the four cases are not mutually exclusive. 3 and 4 include > 1 and 2 as possibilities. > > If you try and fix that problem by defining 3 or 4 so that they exclude > 1 and 2, then the > > argument about 3 and 4 being favored by Occam's razor (if that is still > a thing in the enclosing > > world) no longer holds - because they are no longer simpler options. > > If this argument about Occam's razor did hold, I think simulism would be > a bit of > > a less interesting possibility. However, it isn't a valid argument. > > -- > __________ > |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Taa86c5612b8739b7-Mf6ea7db8b105df69e545d488 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
