Hi Ben,

Thanks for that information. Let me mull over it.

Danko

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:57 AM Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you familiar with Marcus Hutter's work on Universal AI?
>
> The general message there is: Truly, fully general intelligence is
> only feasible with infinite computing power.
>
> However, that's not really what matters in our physical universe, let
> alone in the human world here on Earth...
>
> Eons ago I aimed to formalize a more real-life-oriented variant of
> Legg and Hutters formalization of the general intelligence notion,
>
> http://agi-conf.org/2010/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/paper_14.pdf
>
> The "no free lunch theorem" mathematically connects w/ the statistical
> decision theory underlying Hutter's work, it's all essentially the
> same story.   In essence, we may not get a free lunch but we can get a
> cheaper lunch if we buy it from our relatives.  I.e. yes real-world
> general intelligence has to do with biasing somewhat-general
> intelligence toward the specific patterns in the actual universe the
> intelligence has to deal with.   Deep NNs are a small example of this,
> in that their hierarchical structure represents a biasing toward the
> hierarchical structuring commonplace in our region of the physical
> universe.
>
> I tried to formalize the relation btw world/goal structures and
> mind-structures here,
>
>
> https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-Mind-World-Correspondence-Principle-Goertzel/ec4ca4401f38ec10d8d3cf40c39af0a4bfe86557
>
> How useful this sort of formalization is for actually building AGI is
> an open question.   My current AGI research is focused on
> formalizations that bridge the math used in practical integrative AGI
> systems like OpenCog with the math used in these sorts of abstract
> formalizations...
>
> -- Ben
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:44 PM Danko Nikolić <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am curious to learn what the people here think about the idea that the
> notion of general intelligence contradicts the no-free-lunch-theorem.
> >
> > Do you guys agree that a contradiction exists? If so, is that a problem?
> Would that mean that no form of general intelligence could ever exist?
> >
> > Also, does anyone here undertake any explicit efforts to circumvent this
> contradiction?
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Danko
> >
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> --
> Ben Goertzel, PhD
> http://goertzel.org
> 
> “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to
> live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same
> time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn,
> burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders
> across the stars.” -- Jack Kerouac


-- 
Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolić
www.danko-nikolic.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danko-nikolic/

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