1. It’s off topic 2. The vaccines follow the fundamental principles of traditional vaccines: to elicit a a protective immune response 3. While they do use genetic material (mRNA) to produce a harmless piece of the virus to elicit that immune response, they are in no way “gene therapy” in the medical sense 4. No credible scientific evidence for creating amyloid clots. Even the possibly *extremely rare* cases that could *possibly* be attributed to the vaccines are vanishingly small compared to the vaccine benefits in protecting against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. 4. (a) A very good friend of mine is the Chief Assistant Medical Examiner in a very large US city and we’ve discussed this: he’s not seen it. Not once. And he’s done hundreds and hundreds of autopsies during and since the pandemic started. 5. As more data comes in (from large studies of pre- and post-vaccine cohorts), all of the adverse events attributed to the vaccines were in fact rising almost exponentially during the early pandemic, before vaccines. 6. “Clot shot” is loaded language in that it's conspiracy=theory lingo designed to induce fear, etc. 7. There are standard conventions and protocols for calling vaccines “vaccines” (see #2)
Anyway. Because it’s almost entirely off-topic for the reason we’re all here, that’s all I’m going to say about it. Thanks. > On Sep 20, 2023, at 4:09 PM, David Williams <david.amne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Matt, on #12 under “what else,” you could add “gamma ray burst” > > Btw I only check in periodically, when did loaded language like “clot shot” > enter the thread? Not useful imho. > > Dw > >> On Sep 20, 2023, at 11:17 AM, Matt Mahoney <mattmahone...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mattmahone...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Truth is whatever makes the best predictions. The proper way to update our >> beliefs is by Bayesian reasoning. If a theory, t, correctly predicts event, >> e, then this evidence increases the probability that t is correct to p(t|e) >> = p(t)p(e|t)/p(e). We all reason this way because the math is built into >> Hebb's model of classical conditioning. >> >> But there are two problems. First, science has no axioms. Probability is a >> model of belief, not of the state of our deterministic universe. The >> universe necessarily has greater Kolmogorov complexity than any intelligence >> contained within it and is therefore unknowable. The problem is that >> different people have different evidence. If I flip a coin and peek at the >> outcome, then my p(heads) is different from your p(heads). >> >> Second, some of our beliefs are hard coded in our DNA by evolution, which >> makes objective reasoning impossible. For example, we all have senses of >> consciousness, qualia, and free will, which we know must be illusions >> because we know that all human behavior depends only on neurons firing >> according to rules that are either deterministic or computationally >> indistinguishable from deterministic. These illusions make life worth >> living, leading to more offspring. >> >> The nature of science is that you can always find evidence supporting both >> sides of any issue. I find this to be true on all political issues. If you >> follow both the left and right leaning media as I do, then you find that >> both sides have legitimate arguments backed by studies on issues like >> abortion, guns, immigration, climate change, children getting sex changes, >> etc. >> >> On vaccines, there is a legitimate argument that DNA left over from the mRNA >> manufacturing process remains stable for years rather than hours or days, >> and we won't know for years if there are any long term effects. I weigh this >> against evidence that the vaccinated had lower death rates. I recall the >> protection was something like 95% against Alpha, 88% from Delta, and 12% >> from Omicron. If you are afraid of needles, it is easy to only follow >> evidence against the vaccine. I'm not, because when I was about 5 the nurse >> put rubbing alcohol on my arm and told me it would numb the pain, and it >> did. I'm not planning another booster shot because I already had 3 shots in >> 2021 and caught Omicron anyway at it's peak in January 2022 and I barely >> noticed. >> >> I'm not very hopeful that AGI can solve political division when it was >> technology (social media message ranking algorithms) that caused it in the >> first place. >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 6:35 AM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com >> <mailto:johnr...@polyplexic.com>> wrote: >> On Friday, September 08, 2023, at 3:06 PM, John Rose wrote: >>> A big threat is for people’s minds to be programmed to believe that >>> something that will slowly kill them is good for them. >>> >>> *hint* *hint* >> >> But then, in order to maximize the seductive efficacy of an AI generated >> Darwinian kill shot they’d have to not only asynchronously and lazily >> exterminate existing “vermin” but target descendants by altering the tumor >> suppressor gene via DNA modification… >> >> Hanlon’s Razor LOL >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWHhrHiiTY >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWHhrHiiTY> >> >> In addition, by adding luciferase and graphene oxide then an agent >> programming interface is firmly in place by exposing an “API” to 5G. >> >> Translation - you’ve been chipped 😊 >> >> Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest> / AGI >> / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + participants >> <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery options >> <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription>Permalink >> <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T206dd0e37a9e7407-M7810f3c28a4fa57ea2a32f5c> ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T206dd0e37a9e7407-Mc546a668da0cd7335e6d624b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
