I’ve already covered it. GA’s do not produce *new elements*. They permutate a 
very limited set of given elements. So a GA can produce variations on an 
electric circuit. But that’s it. That’s all it can do. Electric circuits. It 
can’t produce a new system of water piping. Or oil piping. Or aquifers. Or an 
irrigation system.

And even then, you need the guidance of a human programmer.

Creativity is *new elements* m – endless generativity.  

From: Mike Archbold 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:06 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] Behold your saviour, Ben




On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:

  PRODUCE ONE EXAMPLE of a creative algorithm. Or a creative recipe. One single 
algorithm that has produced one new element.


I'd say the whole of evolutionary computing which subsumes all of genetic 
algorithms, genetic programming, evolution strategies, evolutionary programming 
etc fits that general goal.  See a book called Intro to Evolutionary Computing 
by Eiben Smith.  Optimisation, modelling, simulation are the results.  Now you 
are going to counter "well, it's still narrow and preprogrammed."  But then 
that gets back to the problem of moving the goal posts around in AI.  It's 
creative given the present state of AI, does it scale up to your expectations?  
Probably not at this point.  But, it's creative to an extent. I'm not here to 
sell you on AI, though, just to give you an example (one fucking example that 
is).


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